[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

You can't stand do gooders? Do you like all your mates to be lying, sleazy backstabbers then?

I think what smeagol is trying to say is that no one can be mr nice 24/7. We are human beings after all and we all carry traits good and bad, to go nine weeks peddling i am a saint and doing it for the kiddies and those with similar problems and i don't know my alphabet by Sam is pushing it. The reality for everyone is that we are all flawed and have good and bad traits but to go on national tv and try to remove negative traits is not endearing to those watching, it is viewed as calculating and a game plan. It is what it is and if Sam just admitted that i would have at least one ounce of respect for him in saying that.

[fingers]

There was absolutely no need for him to introduce his "Role Model" speech, it should have been his accomplishments in the house that he should have mentioned.........Oh, hang on a minute.......Yep he Had to bring it up in that case!

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by fingers

There was absolutely no need for him to introduce his "Role Model" speech, it should have been his accomplishments in the house that he should have mentioned.........Oh, hang on a minute.......Yep he Had to bring it up in that case!

[Verbal]

Time to log off before I self implode...again, on this thread. Some people's ignorance is just unreal. Goodnight.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I think what smeagol is trying to say is that no one can be mr nice 24/7. We are human beings after all and we all carry traits good and bad, to go nine weeks peddling i am a saint and doing it for the kiddies and those with similar problems and i don't know my alphabet by Sam is pushing it. The reality for everyone is that we are all flawed and have good and bad traits but to go on national tv and try to remove negative traits is not endearing to those watching, it is viewed as calculating and a game plan. It is what it is and if Sam just admitted that i would have at least one ounce of respect from me for him in saying that.

I don't think he has removed his negative traits we all know what they are enough people have been pointing them out.


What's clear though is that Sam endears himself to a lot of people because although immature at times he is the most well behaved and decent person in there. He is your everyday guy that people up and down this country are or have friends and boyfriends like him.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

He has made some boyish comments that are immature and if he wants to be a role model he should curb that.


There's another person in the house who is quite clearly sexist and chauvinistic too but let's not say anything about that sweep sweep.

Sam is 23 years old.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Sam is 23 years old.

Bit old for BOYISH COMMENTS innit?

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Sam is 23 years old.

Yeh I am 24 and I make boyish comments. What's your point?

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

I don't think he has removed his negative traits we all know what they are enough people have been pointing them out.


What's clear though is that Sam endears himself to a lot of people because although immature at times he is the most well behaved and decent person in there. He is your everyday guy that people up and down this country are or have friends and boyfriends like him.

if thats true no wonder this county is going down hill everybodys friend must be asleep lol

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I think what smeagol is trying to say is that no one can be mr nice 24/7. We are human beings after all and we all carry traits good and bad, to go nine weeks peddling i am a saint and doing it for the kiddies and those with similar problems and i don't know my alphabet by Sam is pushing it. The reality for everyone is that we are all flawed and have good and bad traits but to go on national tv and try to remove negative traits is not endearing to those watching, it is viewed as calculating and a game plan. It is what it is and if Sam just admitted that i would have at least one ounce of respect from me for him in saying that.

As you have said yourself, he tells corny jokes, swears occasionally, larks about and flirts.
Hardly someone trying to portray themselves as a saint,more .i,e someone acting normal.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by fingers

Bit old for BOYISH COMMENTS innit?

Is it hell, I work as a gardener and trust me I see 60 year olds making far more crass and boyish comments than him.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Sam is 23 years old.

Indeed. My mum was 23 when I was born and she'd been married 3 years by then!

Sam doesn't even know the alphabet. Great role model!

[honeydew]

Sam has bitched about Dexter and Sophie behind their backs. Awful
role .model . Winkie Expanding, Rude comments to females.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Lex

Well...don't ya? I do!

I'm partially deaf Lex ,have been from childhood and its no easy ride but I doubt very much Sam would want the sympathy vote,there are other reasons to like him ,ok you dont see it some of us do,

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by honeydew

Sam has bitched about Dexter and Sophie behind their backs. Awful
role .model . Winkie Expanding, Rude comments to females.

what has he said that he hasnt said to their faces

[fingers]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Indeed. My mum was 23 when I was born and she'd been married 3 years by then!

Sam doesn't even know the alphabet. Great role model!

Stand by for the usual comments, Knowing the alphabet is unimportant, knowing grammar is unimportant, knowing how to spell is unimportant, so long as you can send text messages your life is in order.

[JTM45]

Sam's not a great role model at all.
He has no career to speak of at all, has no real views or opinions on anything so i just can't see any reason at all why anyone would seriously consider him a role model.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Sam's not a great role model at all.
He has no career to speak of at all, has no real views or opinions on anything so i just can't see any reason at all why anyone would seriously consider him a role model.

Yeh we all have to be filthy rich philanthropists to be role models. Some of the best people In this world are also some of the poorest.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Sam's not a great role model at all.
He has no career to speak of at all, has no real views or opinions on anything so i just can't see any reason at all why anyone would seriously consider him a role model.

He will shortly have Ł100,000 in the bank, that will be his role.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by fingers

He will shortly have Ł100,000 in the bank, that will be his role.

I assume he lives at home with his parents. So he'll be able to flash the cash and get some..........

....... er, girlfriends. lol.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

From what I can see it is you that keeps bringing his deafness into things,not heard Sam mention it until he's asked about it.

Aw come off it Kaz...without his impediment, everyone would see Sam as just a slightly childish lazy sod , with a juvenile soh that is just about as exciting as the test card!
...Not particularly nasty, nor overtly annoying ....but nevertheless...unworthy of lasting to the final, let alone winning the damn show!
...And if we were all as honest as we purport to be...then we would declare that his disability does matter to us! And if you deem that enough to want him to win, then that is your choice and I respect your decision! ..I am man enough to admit that that was the road that I was on until a week or so ago...but then changed my mind and now do not believe that it would be right to deprive the real winner of the prize...whomever that would be! [as you know my choice is Dexter, I know that is something that you could never agree with...but I have to say that I also believe that any of the other hm's have contributed a lot more to the series than Sam, and deserve to finish above him! ..[except the twins because they get on my tits! ]

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

I don't think he has removed his negative traits we all know what they are enough people have been pointing them out.


What's clear though is that Sam endears himself to a lot of people because although immature at times he is the most well behaved and decent person in there. He is your everyday guy that people up and down this country are or have friends and boyfriends like him.

Sam's biggest problem is not sleeping for most of the day, it is when he is awake and opens his mouth.
Opening night Sams first interaction with Hazel he said.... All i saw was your big boobies.
To the girls on spray tan day: ( i am sorry but i cannot even bring myself to repeat it)
Magic night another comment to the girls to get their kit off.
My winky just expanded to Jemima.
Big boobies.
Watching the girls shower with Callum and sniggering like two school kids looking through the hole in the wall in the girls locker room and many many more on the live feed. All of which ended up on the cutting room floor. Why is anyones guess but those watching the live feed know what i mean.
The bee task they only showed the clean joke and removed the sexist one is also another good example.
Sam often tells others they are rude. He said this to Dexter many times when in reality it is Sam that is the really rude one, he thinks that degrading women on national tv is acceptable behaviour.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I assume he lives at home with his parents. So he'll be able to flash the cash and get some..........

....... er, girlfriends. lol.

Yeh I suppose we should give the money to Dexter who will use his prize money to open a kitten sanctuary......

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Yeh we all have to be filthy rich philanthropists to be role models. Some of the best people In this world are also some of the poorest.

There's absolutely no mention of money, wealth or being rich in my post so where the hell are you coming from ?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Sam is 23 years old.

Good Lord how many men do you know stop making girlie comments suddenly at 23!!!! they never stop ffs,and I'll bet some of the holier than thou people have made plenty of comments about girls/guys,I know I do sometimes it's human nature take a good look around this forum,then you'll see sexist remarks,this is getting silly now and a stupid thing to trash him for.