[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I honestly don't know what you're trying to say..you asked a question whether people would take the money and some people would..you wouldn't, that's cool, that's your decision...some housemates go in for the money and some for other reasons but I doubt they would go in and put themselves up for such public scrutiny and sometimes humiliation if there was no money involved as well...it doesn't make anyone less moral if they would take the money or more honourable if they wouldn't...BB wouldn't be able to change to prize fund if it was fixed in their contract so they all know what could happen and they've all played their game and survived eviction until now so if one of them doesn't want to risk going away with no money and would rather leave now with £50,000 but forego their moment in an eviction then that doesn't make them any a lesser person than anyone else...

Makes them less trustworthy. Picking money over winning fairly shows what you are as a person.

At the end of the day everybody competed in there to win a prize fund that they believe is entitled to whoever wins in the final, you taking the money deprives them of that chance and also shows that you aren't prepared to win it in the way that was expected of you.

Hence sellout.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

What part of hypothetical don't you understand?

But your hypothetical point makes no sense.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..your 'loyalties' are to your family and what that money would mean to them and your own life and if you didn't take it then another housemate would..why would you be loyal to someone you had only known a few weeks above the people you love and care for, that would be foolish imo...

A few weeks? Make that months.

Too much me, me, me in this world. Taking the money has a knock on effect to all those around you, and also makes a farce of a game show that should have given the money to whoever the public deems worthy.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Videostar

But your hypothetical point makes no sense.

Yes it does, it's a common occurrence in the real world where money is paramount to many people as illustrated here.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Maybe not but you would deserve to have your loyalties questioned. You sold out the house and ideals of fair play in order to secure yourself money that the public never even decided you deserved or not.

In all honesty that's fine. I know myself where my loyalties lie and it's not with a bunch of people I don't know (or quite often particularly care for). I would rather guarantee some money that would benefit my life and my family's lives. If that makes me a bad person then so be it I'm afraid.

[Ace]

If I wasn't first or secind in the popularity poll, of course I'd take it. It would a no brainer.

[Patrick]

If I was in a position like Hazel and knew I was hated, then yeah I'd take it and run.

If I still had a chance of winning - I'd stay to be in the final.

[joeysteele]

Definitely yes.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Makes them less trustworthy. Picking money over winning fairly shows what you are as a person.

At the end of the day everybody competed in there to win a prize fund that they believe is entitled to whoever wins in the final, you taking the money deprives them of that chance and also shows that you aren't prepared to win it in the way that was expected of you.

Hence sellout.

..no it doesn't make them less trustworthy at all, it makes them very practical, they have a 1 in 6 chance of winning but they could also lose, so taking the money is a very practical and quite logical thing to do...BB wouldn't be allowed to do it unless it was a clause that they could so all of the housemates, including the ultimate winner know that and know they could go away with less than £100,000...they signed up for that, every one of them..no one would have sold out at all, they'll have played a game, avoided eviction and walked away with £50,000..a pretty good game so long as they all got an equal chance of being that person and it wasn't someone who was 'selected' by BB..the housemate hasn't deprived the winner of anything, if anyone has been 'deprived' then it's by BB alone...

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by anniek76

In all honesty that's fine. I know myself where my loyalties lie and it's not with a bunch of people I don't know (or quite often particularly care for). I would rather guarantee some money that would benefit my life and my family's lives. If that makes me a bad person then so be it I'm afraid.

Would that also apply if you were given a bung of 50k to keep your mouth shut if you witnessed a crime?

How far would you go for your families financial security?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

A few weeks? Make that months.

Too much me, me, me in this world. Taking the money has a knock on effect to all those around you, and also makes a farce of a game show that should have given the money to whoever the public deems worthy.

..a few weeks, a few months..?..it makes no difference over the people who are important to you, the people you love..those are the ones it would have a knock on effect with if you turned down the money for another housemate to take and ended up with nothing....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Would that also apply if you were given a bung of 50k to keep your mouth shut if you witnessed a crime?

How far would you go for your families financial security?

..that's where you're being offensive, there's no similarity at all between a gameshow and a being a witness to a crime...people are 'teased' with money all the time in gameshows, it's all part of it and has no bearing on their morals at all...

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that's where you're being offensive, there's no similarity at all between a gameshow and a being a witness to a crime...people are 'teased' with money all the time in gameshows, it's all part of it and has no bearing on their morals at all...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that's where you're being offensive, there's no similarity at all between a gameshow and a being a witness to a crime...people are 'teased' with money all the time in gameshows, it's all part of it and has no bearing on their morals at all...

Yup. Agreed.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Yes it does, it's a common occurrence in the real world where money is paramount to many people as illustrated here.

So money is of no importance to you then?

I just love self righteous people.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that's where you're being offensive, there's no similarity at all between a gameshow and a being a witness to a crime...people are 'teased' with money all the time in gameshows, it's all part of it and has no bearing on their morals at all...

Offensive? You got to be kidding me?

I hope nobody goes out into the real world from here they would be offended by everything....

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Videostar

So money is of no importance to you then?

I just love self righteous people.

So long as its earned fairly and squarely with no detriment to anyone else.

You know, basic human qualities.

[Sandz38]

It's not a crime though is it?? It's a tv show so yes if it meant my kids had some security for them in future then yes I would take it..btw just so you know I work hard 12 hour shifts to pay for my children my youngest is 13 weeks old and I'm going back to work early to pay for her upkeep sharing her care between myself and my partner we work in the same building he is working 4 days 12 hours per day I'm doing 3 days 12 hours we work hard so yeah I would take the cash

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Would that also apply if you were given a bung of 50k to keep your mouth shut if you witnessed a crime?

How far would you go for your families financial security?

To be honest I would kill for my family and again if that makes me a bad person then so be it. BUT your analogy is quite off as the situations are completely different.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Offensive? You got to be kidding me?

I hope nobody goes out into the real world from here they would be offended by everything....

..you asked a question then judged people for their reply because they would take the money, I'm aware of the 'real world' and £50,000 would make a lot of difference to most people in that real world..they're not breaking any laws, hurting anyone or divulging any national secrets or anything, they're being offered to forego their eviction for some cash which if they don't take then another housemate will..they're not cheating anyone, if you see that as cheating then it's BB who have done that cheating and not that housemate...if you were asking whether a housemate would be right to take it, then that's fine, people will give their opinions on that but please don't judge a forum of people who £50,000 would make a huge difference to because they would choose to take it and would have participated in a game and have no control over that choice they were given by the people who make the game rules....

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

So long as its earned fairly and squarely with no detriment to anyone else.

You know, basic human qualities.

But it as been earned fairly and squarely. It's part if the game...it's not stolen, it's been offered by the makers of the game so it's part of gameplay.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

So long as its earned fairly and squarely with no detriment to anyone else.

You know, basic human qualities.

..it's not to anyone else's detriment anymore than the other housemates that don't walk away with the prize fund, it's being offered a choice and making that choice..that doesn't reflect at all on their 'human qualities'...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that's where you're being offensive, there's no similarity at all between a gameshow and a being a witness to a crime...people are 'teased' with money all the time in gameshows, it's all part of it and has no bearing on their morals at all...

Well said Ammi, I don't get that comparison whatsover.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by anniek76

But it as been earned fairly and squarely. It's part if the game...it's not stolen, it's been offered by the makers of the game so it's part of gameplay.

Pretty much this

The only person who could ever be blamed in this situation imo is Big Brother for offering the money in the first place... though even then, they can't really be "blamed" as such. It's their game, they can do whatever they want to. I'm not going to judge someone as being a terrible person for thinking ahead about their future and accepting their offer.

[Kizzy]

It does appeal to a certain Machiavellian attitude to cut and run, and people like conor and dexter fit that stereotype very well.
They know it's unlikely they will win based on their own merits so decide to 'take' what they can.