Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

No I don't know, and I don't care. You only have to see the reaction she got when walking in to see that she is praised for the way she is. Not to mention that she has her own TV show.

She makes me want to vomit.

I've been a teenager, i've been through College, there were a lot more people who would be dribbling kebab juice over themselves at 2am on a Saturday night than sitting at home reading the bible. [at my college]

So if you don't know and/or care about the actual statistics, would you do the honourable thing and perhaps admit your bias may be clouding your judgment here?

Saying "I know because I've been there too", doesn't really mean anything. It's anecdotal, and anecdotal evidence is the worst kind. I've also been through university. I left a small rural village to move to a big city, so I've had massive culture shock, it doesn't mean that I get to label everyone as a waster.

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Originally Posted by Jesus.

So if you don't know and/or care about the actual statistics, would you do the honourable thing and perhaps admit your bias mat be clouding your judgment here?

Saying "I know because I've been there too", doesn't really mean anything. It's anecdotal, and anecdotal evidence is the worst kind. I've also been through university. I left a small rural village to move to a big city, so I've had massive culture shock, it doesn't mean that I get to label everyone as a waster.

Bias towards what? I'm merely making an observation, based on experience. She is celebrated for basically being a twat. I at no point called anybody a waster, she clearly isnt. Its her image I have issues with.

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Bias towards what? I'm merely making an observation, based on experience. She is celebrated for basically being a twat. I at no point called anybody a waster, she clearly isnt. Its her image I have issues with.

An observation that groups people together in nicely packaged dismissive soundbytes that make it easy to avoid thinking about.

I actually watch Geordie Shore (for my sins), and yeah, they are all a bit extreme in one way or another, but Charlotte actually appears to be a pretty genuine girl, with a really good heart.

If everyone was really like her, then people wouldn't watch it in a show.

Her image? Why does that concern you? She's a young girl doind what young guys have been doing (without being judged for) all of history.

She likes sex, bodily functions, and drinking.


I'm sure conversations with your friends happen to include these topics from time to time.

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Originally Posted by Jesus.

An observation that groups people together in nicely packaged dismissive soundbytes that make it easy to avoid thinking about.

I actually watch Geordie Shore (for my sins), and yeah, they are all a bit extreme in one way or another, but Charlotte actually appears to be a pretty genuine girl, with a really good heart.

If everyone was really like her, then people wouldn't watch it in a show.

Her image? Why does that concern you? She's a young girl doind what young guys have been doing (without being judged for) all of history.

She likes sex, bodily functions, and drinking.


I'm sure conversations with your friends happen to include these topics from time to time.

You're just arguing with me for the sake of it. You've basically just agreed with me without realising it.

She's a young girl doind what young guys have been doing (without being judged for) all of history.

Apart from the 'doing through all history' part, which quite frankly is rubbish. You've just said exactly what I am but in a different way.

Let me spell it out for you - why are people regardless of age, in this country celebrated for being louts?

The American girl, comes across as a sweet, naive, god fearing, girl whilst Britain has a burping, farting, foul mouthed chav representing.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

You're just arguing with me for the sake of it. You've basically just agreed with me without realising it.


Apart from the 'doing through all history' part, which quite frankly is rubbish. You've just said exactly what I am but in a different way.

Let me spell it out for you - why are people regardless of age, in this country celebrated for being louts?

The American girl, comes across as a sweet, naive, god fearing, girl whilst Britain has a burping, farting, foul mouthed chav representing.

..I think she's been portrayed more as a 'plastic bimbo/shallow/air head/gold digger' type..that's not really better than Charlotte..it's equally as bad but just different...

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..I think she's been portrayed more as a 'plastic bimbo/shallow/air head/gold digger' type..that's not really better than Charlotte..it's equally as bad but just different...

That's not the impression i've got, not if you read between the lines at least. She spent hours on the first night worrying about her bloody stuffed toy for god sake. How more innocent can you get? She's also a Christian, which I didn't know before.

What have I learnt about the Geordie? She likes burping, farting, drinking and basically just being as obnoxious and 'outrageous' as she can.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

That's not the impression i've got, not if you read between the lines at least. She spent hours on the first night worrying about her bloody stuffed toy for god sake. How more innocent can you get? She's also a Christian, which I didn't know before.

What have I learnt about the Geordie? She likes burping, farting, drinking and basically just being as obnoxious and 'outrageous' as she can.

You don't worry about a grown woman worrying about a soft toy? Just all part of the act. How anyone can call her innocent is so laughable it isn't even funny. Not innocent -either very calculating or completely thick.

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

You're just arguing with me for the sake of it. You've basically just agreed with me without realising it.


Apart from the 'doing through all history' part, which quite frankly is rubbish. You've just said exactly what I am but in a different way.

Let me spell it out for you - why are people regardless of age, in this country celebrated for being louts?

The American girl, comes across as a sweet, naive, god fearing, girl whilst Britain has a burping, farting, foul mouthed chav representing.

We couldn't be further from agreeing on this point. You grouped this "modern youth" together and made out every young person was like that. I'm saying if every young person was like that, then no one would watch a show of them.

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Originally Posted by Jesus.

We couldn't be further from agreeing on this point. You grouped this "modern youth" together and made out every young person was like that. I'm saying if every young person was like that, then no one would watch a show of them.

I specifically said I am not labeling 'every young person' just a very large majority.

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

I specifically said I am not labeling 'every young person' just a very large majority.

Not every young person, just a large majority.

So a majority is 51%. A large majority to me would be 60-70%, then I'd say a "very large majority" would be around 80% which would be just under 6million of the 7.4 million young people in the uk.

I don't agree with that at all. I think it's an easy thing to label people.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

I specifically said I am not labeling 'every young person' just a very large majority.

So instead you would prefer British women to have minds like children but with their boobs and crotch on display for all to see. Really not much to choose between them is there?

Oh please tell me you are being sarky when you refer to Courtney as innocent and god fearing, I just might give up on the human race altogether otherwise.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Bias towards what? I'm merely making an observation, based on experience. She is celebrated for basically being a twat. I at no point called anybody a waster, she clearly isnt. Its her image I have issues with.

..I didn't have access to so much TV when I was younger but it's never been different in that my generation was always more interested in watching the 'rebel' type/anti establishment etc because it made for more interesting viewing,,it doesn't mean to say we role modelled ourselves on them or anything though or thought them as 'the norm' ..TV has always portrayed more extreme characters...

..I also remember my mum saying..'the youth of today....'.lol...