[erinp5]

Carol doesn't do having a private word with someone, she likes an audience .
Lauren was wrong not to flush but it was just another chance for Carol to belittle Lauren.In fact the majority of the older Hms do.

12.23pm: Bruce and Dustin think Lauren is selfish because she drinks too much milk!

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by parmnion

that si what i thought, i was thinking shut up emma, who says it was a floater. It was more likely a dark mass of sludge that was splattered all over the sides and edges of the seat

Well,That just put me off my KFC,Cheers

[MachoPoodle]

It's not very nice, but come on, there's no one alive who hasn't forgotten to flush at some point.

[Pincho Paxton]

If Lauren has Dyspraxia then she isn't to blame for forgetting to flush the loo, forgetting not to fall over the thing on the ground, and forgetting that she had a drink in her hand when removing her headphones.

[fingers]

Would Russel Brand have found it hilarious to use the toilet after Lauren in that alleged "cheap Endemol Hotel"?

[Lord Of The Garden]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

If Lauren has Dyspraxia then she isn't to blame for forgetting to flush the loo, forgetting not to fall over the thing on the ground, and forgetting that she had a drink in her hand when removing her headphones.

Might not be a good idea to go on a game show then. Especially if she expects the HMs around her to automatically take the place of her carers back home - without prior explanation or warning to the HMs and without their consent.

It's too much to just expect it of them.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Lord Of The Garden

Might not be a good idea to go on a game show then. Especially if she expects the HMs around her to automatically take the place of her carers back home - without prior explanation or warning to the HMs and without their consent.

It's too much to just expect it of them.

It could be good to tell people about Dyspraxia. But she didn't. At least teach people about it, and help the cause.

[Lord Of The Garden]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

It could be good to tell people about Dyspraxia. But she didn't. At least teach people about it, and help the cause.

If that's what she suffers from then it would be a good opportunity to raise awareness for sure.

If she does suffer from it and it impairs her daily routine to the point of affecting others, then either she and her carers/family or Big Brother have a duty to inform the HMs and obtain their consent before she entered and not just assume that HMs would intuitively take over the caring roles that Lauren is used to on the outside world without prior warning.

BB have known her well for 10 years and they do not take HM's illness lightly at the best of times, so i doubt they would have put her in there if they believed her to be unfit to take part.

So it's one of 2 things.
Either they know she has Dyspraxia and Lauren, her carers and Big Brother have all got it wrong and overlooked her needs in the house and just expected the other HMs to take a caring role without warning or preparation (which seems highly unlikely).

Or she doesn't have Dyspraxia but has similar characteristics, being a bit sloppy, careless etc.
That seems more likely to me but i don't know enough to be sure.

None of us would know the full picture unless you were part of Lauren's family/carers or the BB production team.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

I dont flush the Toilet as well, let everyone take in the fragrance

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Im_Juz_ChiLLin

I dont flush the Toilet as well, let everyone take in the fragrance

That's not even slightly funny, just disgusting.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Im_Juz_ChiLLin

I dont flush the Toilet as well, let everyone take in the fragrance

Odour da toilet... it's a best seller.

[Tozzie]

I thought Carol was awful, she went all out to embarrass Lauren, she could quite easily have taken Lauren aside discreetly and asked her next time to make sure she flushes the toilet. There really was no need to embarrass her like that, the rotten cow. If it had been me that followed Lauren in, of course it wouldn't have been very pleasant, but I would have flushed it then taken her aside. I really felt for Lauren. I don't for one minute think Lauren did that on purpose.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Well,That just put me off my KFC,Cheers

it probably tastes and looks better than a KFC

[Lee.]

I actually laughed at her face when carol asked her if she had been to the toilet.. She said no, then looked at mario with a really mischievous look before covering her face in embarrassment. Hahaha.. I can't help liking her

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Lord Of The Garden

If that's what she suffers from then it would be a good opportunity to raise awareness for sure.

If she does suffer from it and it impairs her daily routine to the point of affecting others, then either she and her carers/family or Big Brother have a duty to inform the HMs and obtain their consent before she entered and not just assume that HMs would intuitively take over the caring roles that Lauren is used to on the outside world without prior warning.

BB have known her well for 10 years and they do not take HM's illness lightly at the best of times, so i doubt they would have put her in there if they believed her to be unfit to take part.

So it's one of 2 things.
Either they know she has Dyspraxia and Lauren, her carers and Big Brother have all got it wrong and overlooked her needs in the house and just expected the other HMs to take a caring role without warning or preparation (which seems highly unlikely).

Or she doesn't have Dyspraxia but has similar characteristics, being a bit sloppy, careless etc.
That seems more likely to me but i don't know enough to be sure.

None of us would know the full picture unless you were part of Lauren's family/carers or the BB production team.

I posted a link the other day about Dyspraxia and it seems Lauren does display a lot of the 'symptoms' but like you say, only her support team knows whether she does or doesn't have it.

I don't think having dyspraxia should actually stop anyone going on BB but I do think perhaps if she does have the condition the other housemates should have been made aware because they do tend to make fun of her, with her sloppyness, her spilling tea/drinks/ her falling over etc and if they were aware they may have a little empathy with her.

[Kizzy]

My son has it, it's an impairment of fine (writing) or gross ( falling over) motor skills.

However the learned behaviours of toileting don't affect him, also by 35 you would have thought someone so intelligent could have devised rituals to help cope with personal hygiene issues.

[Deebo]

Poor Carol didn't go into the house to clean up after 35 yr olds who can't use a toilet properly. She did the right thing by being being sensitive and asking Lauren politely to clean up her own poo. I'm surprised she kept her cool when Lauren tried to deny being responsible.

In fact, all the housemates have bent over backwards to accommodate Lauren's impairments. Vicky even picked up a piece of Lauren's poo and flushed it away when Lauren 'forgot' last time and left one on the seat.

I just wish Lauren could behave with grace and show some gratitude to these strangers who have been so sensitive her gross behaviour, filthy habits, selfish attitude and general neediness

There really is no excuse for soiling the house so regularly. If nothing else, it's a health hazard

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Deebo

Poor Carol didn't go into the house to clean up after 35 yr olds who can't use a toilet properly. She did the right thing by being being sensitive and asking Lauren politely to clean up her own poo. I'm surprised she kept her cool when Lauren tried to deny being responsible.

In fact, all the housemates have bent over backwards to accommodate Lauren's impairments. Vicky even picked up a piece of Lauren's poo and flushed it away when Lauren 'forgot' last time and left one on the seat.

I just wish Lauren could behave with grace and show some gratitude to these strangers who have been so sensitive her gross behaviour, filthy habits, selfish attitude and general neediness

There really is no excuse for soiling the house so regularly. If nothing else, it's a health hazard

Oh Ew,gross,how on earth does one leave 'a turd' for someone else to 'pick' up

[Kizzy]

You would have thought too that anyone so negligent in this area wouldn't walk around in a thong?......

[Pincho Paxton]

I never saw any video of somebody picking up a poo! It's like a nightmare version of...

...p, p, pick up a penguin.

[Deebo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You would have thought too that anyone so negligent in this area wouldn't walk around in a thong?......

An amusing and disgusting point.

What's also clear is that Lauren probably neglects (or 'forgets') to clean herself properly after using the toilet, i.e. she doesn't wipe her bum. If she's fully clothed and at home then that's a problem for her and her carers, but if she's wearing a thong and sharing a house with strangers then there's a very real danger of disease being spread.

Good job that Carol has sensitively kept Lauren from food preparation areas

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Deebo

Poor Carol didn't go into the house to clean up after 35 yr olds who can't use a toilet properly. She did the right thing by being being sensitive and asking Lauren politely to clean up her own poo. I'm surprised she kept her cool when Lauren tried to deny being responsible.

In fact, all the housemates have bent over backwards to accommodate Lauren's impairments. Vicky even picked up a piece of Lauren's poo and flushed it away when Lauren 'forgot' last time and left one on the seat.

I just wish Lauren could behave with grace and show some gratitude to these strangers who have been so sensitive her gross behaviour, filthy habits, selfish attitude and general neediness

There really is no excuse for soiling the house so regularly. If nothing else, it's a health hazard

You have no evidence it was Lauren. Charlotte is another one whose personal hygiene leaves a lot to be desired. But because she's favourite to win nobody says anything. Charlotte cold take a dump on her bed and people would cheer her for it.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Deebo

An amusing and disgusting point.

What's also clear is that Lauren probably neglects (or 'forgets') to clean herself properly after using the toilet, i.e. she doesn't wipe her bum. If she's fully clothed and at home then that's a problem for her and her carers, but if she's wearing a thong and sharing a house with strangers then there's a very real danger of disease being spread.

Good job that Carol has sensitively kept Lauren from food preparation areas

Now you're being silly. Lauren forgets to flush once and now she does't wipe properly? Stop with the unfunded accusations!

[Deebo]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

You have no evidence it was Lauren. Charlotte is another one whose personal hygiene leaves a lot to be desired. But because she's favourite to win nobody says anything. Charlotte cold take a dump on her bed and people would cheer her for it.

There's plenty of evidence it was Lauren. She has a well-documented track record of leaving poo around the house and denying it. Who else would it be? The other housemates are well-rounded, socially competent, toilet-trained adults

And I don't think you can compare Charlotte's bedwetting with Lauren's behaviour. Youngsters get drunk and inadvertantly wet the bed all the time. It's not news. A 35 year old going for a poo, missing the bowl, and leaving minor celebrities to clean it up doesn't happen all the time and is a billion light years from wetting the bed

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Deebo

There's plenty of evidence it was Lauren. She has a well-documented track record of leaving poo around the house and denying it. Who else would it be? The other housemates are well-rounded, socially competent, toilet-trained adults

And I don't think you can compare Charlotte's bedwetting with Lauren's behaviour. Youngsters get drunk and inadvertantly wet the bed all the time. It's not news. A 35 year old going for a poo, missing the bowl, and leaving minor celebrities to clean it up doesn't happen all the time and is a billion light years from wetting the bed

It wasn't Lauren. For me it was Charlotte. And Charlotte wetted the bed on purpose. That was no accident.