[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by the_answers

I guess she did.

Watch the argument clip even Louie mentioned something along the lines of himself and Charlotte feeling hard done to by not getting one.

Sure I know he (and Vicky) don't speak for her.

But if Charlotte is complaining about Lauren not hearing/speaking up etc then it begs the question - why didn't Charlotte practice what she preaches and put Louie right herself ?....

The conversation was something like... Lauren came in the house, and needed special treatment.. she saw her family, and that is unfair grounds. I want the same playing field as Lauren, it's not fair if we don't all have the same playing field. If Lauren gets to see her family, I want to see my family...

...Then Lauren came into the room from wherever she was.

Why can't I see my mom, why can't you see your family. (to the group)

...Lauren then tried to figure out what they were talking about.

I want to see my mom. (to the group)

...Lauren was sort of miles away in her head. Then she thinks "Are they talking about me?" She tries to interrupt. But can't.

And so it's about seeing Charlotte's family, and having an equal playing field. The playing field was always equal. Lauren didn't see her mom.


The next day....

Lauren tells Charlotte "I didn't see my mom, BB just told me that my mom was outside, and she was well."

Charlotte says "You shouldn't have said anything."

[the_answers]

Yeah I see what you're saying and you're right.

Was just making an extra point if you like...

Just saying I don't think it's pure co-incidence Charlotte made her point you raised AFTER not getting her letter.

Had Charlotte got her letter, I very much doubt she'd have even raised her (incorrect) point about Lauren.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by the_answers

Yeah I see what you're saying and you're right.

Was just making an extra point if you like...

Just saying I don't think it's pure co-incidence Charlotte made her point you raised AFTER not getting her letter.

Had Charlotte got her letter, I very much doubt she'd have even raised her (incorrect) point about Lauren.

Yeah. I think that Charlotte has said that she speaks to someone in her family every day (before going into the house). But that was near day 1, so that has faded from my memory a bit. So she is struggling with not speaking to them.

[the truth]

the utterly moronic behaviour of charlotte reminds me of the ignorant jealous drivel of the infamous jade goody and her fellow bullies against shilpa.....that whole nonsense argument was over coffee beans.....
but like charlotte those vile bullies weren't really interested in the coffee beans, they were just using it as an excuse to run their mouths.
ps after shilpa gate ended and they abused her and she left the room, you can see H from steps open the other kitchen door and whisper meekly, erm theres more coffee beans in here lol

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by the truth

the utterly moronic behaviour of charlotte reminds me of the ignorant jealous drivel of the infamous jade goody and her fellow bullies against shilpa.....that whole nonsense argument was over coffee beans.....
but like charlotte those vile bullies weren't really interested in the coffee beans, they were just using it as an excuse to run their mouths.
ps after shilpa gate ended and they abused her and she left the room, you can see H from steps open the other kitchen door and whisper meekly, erm theres more coffee beans in here lol

Good memory!

[Jords]

Lauren is harmless (except to herself ), they're just becoming paranoid and bitter that she received 'special' treatment.

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

So she is struggling with not speaking to them.

Which seems a bit ironic to me.
Cos didn't she say something about how if you can't handle it you shouldn't be playing or even be in there or something ?

Is she completely deluded and accusing everyone else of what she's guilty of herself ?
I'm seriously starting to wonder !

tbh I'm starting to feel sorry for her as a very misguided girl.

But perhaps I shouldn't cos when she wins bet my bottom dollar she'll have learnt nothing and will be exactly the same.

[the truth]

charlotte is a frightening and dangerous person. the moment she doesn't get everything she wants due to her insatiable greed and jealousy, she starts screaming and bullying. Her parents should be ashamed

[the_answers]

I blame MTV most of all.
If there were no Geordie Shore would she really be the same ?
I'd like to think not but who knows...

[Cherie]

Lets face it Lauren was very sneaky through it all, she was perfectly capable of handling questions during the Bitchfest, she could have nipped that argument in the bud by just saying she didn't see her Mum, but she just sat back and sneakily let it all kick off, she will know Charlotte has a big fan base so effectively bringing down the competition. Lauren is harmless.... yeah yeah.

Her admission that they hadn't asked her if she had seen her Mum puts paid to the train of thought that poor gormless Lauren didn't know what they were arguing about.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

How is it preferential treatment to see a doctor?

How many more times do you want the point explained to you...

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Lets face it Lauren was very sneaky through it all, she was perfectly capable of handling questions during the Bitchfest, she could have nipped that argument in the bud by just saying she didn't see her Mum, but she just sat back and sneakily let it all kick off, she will know Charlotte has a big fan base so effectively bringing down the competition. Lauren is harmless.... yeah yeah.

Her admission that they hadn't asked her if she had seen her Mum puts paid to the train of thought that poor gormless Lauren didn't know what they were arguing about.

Yes very manipulative...never mind..she has shown her true colours and the tide will turn!!!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

The next day....

Lauren tells Charlotte "I didn't see my mom, BB just told me that my mom was outside, and she was well."

Charlotte says "You shouldn't have said anything."

Lauren knew exactly what they were talking about because of her comments to Vicky first thing in the morning. She said they were all assuming but they never asked me.... Well why didnt she put them right instead of watching them carry on?
Also when Lauren was telling Vicky on the bed 'she never spoke to her mum' Courtney piped in with 'no she didnt talk to her she heard her mum talking to the audience.... So basically Lauren has given them all reasons to think she has had some sort of connection with her mum... hopefully they will all just ignore the fruit loop from here on in...they are all seeing the true Lauren now.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Lauren knew exactly what they were talking about because of her comments to Vicky first thing in the morning. She said they were all assuming but they never asked me.... Well why didnt she put them right instead of watching them carry on?
Also when Lauren was telling Vicky on the bed 'she never spoke to her mum' Courtney piped in with 'no she didnt talk to her she heard her mum talking to the audience.... So basically Lauren has given them all reasons to think she has had some sort of connection with her mum... hopefully they will all just ignore the fruit loop from here on in...they are all seeing the true Lauren now.

But sadly its too late

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Lets face it Lauren was very sneaky through it all, she was perfectly capable of handling questions during the Bitchfest, she could have nipped that argument in the bud by just saying she didn't see her Mum, but she just sat back and sneakily let it all kick off, she will know Charlotte has a big fan base so effectively bringing down the competition. Lauren is harmless.... yeah yeah.

Her admission that they hadn't asked her if she had seen her Mum puts paid to the train of thought that poor gormless Lauren didn't know what they were arguing about.

Nobody would know what they were talking about at the moment when Lauren sat down.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Lauren knew exactly what they were talking about because of her comments to Vicky first thing in the morning. She said they were all assuming but they never asked me.... Well why didnt she put them right instead of watching them carry on?
Also when Lauren was telling Vicky on the bed 'she never spoke to her mum' Courtney piped in with 'no she didnt talk to her she heard her mum talking to the audience.... So basically Lauren has given them all reasons to think she has had some sort of connection with her mum... hopefully they will all just ignore the fruit loop from here on in...they are all seeing the true Lauren now.

She could have figured it out after the highlights that we saw.

[coolkid]

if charlotte had them feeling that she was playing the whole house lauren why did she not nom her.she nom best friend 18/30 club carol

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Exactly, everyone knows what Charlotte was saying was right but they wont admit it because it goes against Lauren.

The only one defending the false assumption she saw her mother was Vicky... how everyone else was seen as defending it Im not sure, Louie wasn't but saw the argument descending into childish shouting so bowed out.

FACT1: Lauren never saw her mum or got any preferential treatment
FACT2: Every 'point' charlotte made from then on was based on a false assumption and was therefor invalid.
FACT3: She then didnt even have the grace to apologise or back down when presented with the truth and instead chose to spend all day trying to dig up s**t on Lauren to make others distrust her.

Whether Lauren knew during or well after the argument is up for debate. I dont think she realised till the next day, but thats debatable admittedly. The above 3 things are not up for debate. They are facts.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by coolkid

if charlotte had them feeling that she was playing the whole house lauren why did she not nom her.she nom best friend 18/30 club carol

But the argument happened after nominations and carried on to the following day, where they came to the realisation that Lauren is playing a game because she was the one who planted the seed that she had had contact with her family and yet kept quiet during the whole argument instead of setting everyone straight there and then... so why would she nominate Lauren before everything came to light?

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

But the argument happened after nominations and carried on to the following day, where they came to the realisation that Lauren is playing a game because she was the one who planted the seed that she had had contact with her family and yet kept quiet during the whole argument instead of setting everyone straight there and then... so why would she nominate Lauren before everything came to light?

She didnt plant any seed at all... Vicky said it, and couldn't remember where she heard it. She never said Lauren told her. Most likely she misunderstood something someone said about her hearing her mum in the crowd when she was drunk and just assumed.

At no point has Lauren ever said she had contact with her mum, just that she asked BB If she was ok and they said she was. Thats it... and assuming she knew weeks ago that such a comment would culminate in that charade is frankly ridiculous.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by RodHull

She didnt plant any seed at all... Vicky said it, and couldn't remember where she heard it. She never said Lauren told her. Most likely she misunderstood something someone said about her hearing her mum in the crowd when she was drunk and just assumed.

At no point has Lauren ever said she had contact with her mum, just that she asked BB If she was ok and they said she was. Thats it... and assuming she knew weeks ago that such a comment would culminate in that charade is frankly ridiculous.

She clearly said something for 4 HM's to assume she had seen her Mum or spoken to her.

Even Louie came back from the diary room some time later saying apparently what was said was misleading and she didn't have contact with her family (or words to that effect).

The ONLY person who could've planted that seed was Lauren and the ONLY person that could've cleared up any confusion right in the heat of the argument was Lauren ... yet she waited to sort it all out until the next morning where it was the first thing she said when waking up and then went on to say to Charlotte that she didn't hear what Vicky was saying during the argument so didn't correct her, yet was sitting right next to her with Vicky looking directly at her when she was rudely putting her point across about being allowed outside contact with family!

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

She clearly said something for 4 HM's to assume she had seen her Mum or spoken to her.

Even Louie came back from the diary room some time later saying apparently what was said was misleading and she didn't have contact with her family (or words to that effect).

The ONLY person who could've planted that seed was Lauren and the ONLY person that could've cleared up any confusion right in the heat of the argument was Lauren ... yet she waited to sort it all out until the next morning where it was the first thing she said when waking up and then went on to say to Charlotte that she didn't hear what Vicky was saying during the argument so didn't correct her, yet was sitting right next to her with Vicky looking directly at her when she was rudely putting her point across about being allowed outside contact with family!

You're flogging a dead horse, they don't want to know!!

[anne666]

Originally Posted by fingers

You're flogging a dead horse, they don't want to know!!

Yes I agree

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

She clearly said something for 4 HM's to assume she had seen her Mum or spoken to her.

Even Louie came back from the diary room some time later saying apparently what was said was misleading and she didn't have contact with her family (or words to that effect).

The ONLY person who could've planted that seed was Lauren and the ONLY person that could've cleared up any confusion right in the heat of the argument was Lauren ... yet she waited to sort it all out until the next morning where it was the first thing she said when waking up and then went on to say to Charlotte that she didn't hear what Vicky was saying during the argument so didn't correct her, yet was sitting right next to her with Vicky looking directly at her when she was rudely putting her point across about being allowed outside contact with family!

A lot of people on this forum are spreading the same seed, and nobody on this forum knows what happened. So that's the same thing. Lauren said "My mom is well." and that's all.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

She clearly said something for 4 HM's to assume she had seen her Mum or spoken to her.

Even Louie came back from the diary room some time later saying apparently what was said was misleading and she didn't have contact with her family (or words to that effect).

The ONLY person who could've planted that seed was Lauren and the ONLY person that could've cleared up any confusion right in the heat of the argument was Lauren ... yet she waited to sort it all out until the next morning where it was the first thing she said when waking up and then went on to say to Charlotte that she didn't hear what Vicky was saying during the argument so didn't correct her, yet was sitting right next to her with Vicky looking directly at her when she was rudely putting her point across about being allowed outside contact with family!

Vicky wasn't being rude to Lauren on live feed. She was for some barmy and drunken reason defending her right to see her mother/parents because of her special needs, she was "poorly".That was why Charlotte got so annoyed with her, Funny how she was lucid about it all the moment she woke up. Someone's telling huge porky pies