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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The sad thing is, I don't think a straight Lib Dem government would actually be anywhere near as bad as the current one. They probably wouldn't do a great job... because they'd be sort of flying blind... but their policies (as they were before they sold their souls) were MUCH fairer than Tory policies. This is a Tory government through and through - in fact, it's the MOST Tory government we've ever had in many ways. Who even really thinks of it as a coalition government? Off the top of your head, when you think of the government, you think David Cameron, George Osborne, Tory.

The party has committed political suicide now. Their own traditional voters don't trust them any more. Really - who would vote Lib Dem now?? Their own website has morphed into a massive list of excuses for Tory policies and why they're secretly awesome. You can tell that the Lib Dem ministers themselves don't even believe this crap. Complete lap dogs. The best that can be said for them, is that they have managed to block one or two of the very worst Tory plans.

The start of your post above, which is another really interesting post Toy Soldier, was how I felt in 2010, I voted Lib Dem then.
I knew they couldn't win themselves but I did hope for a stronger push to either of the parties from them to ensure they were a real brake on the more severe policies.

I feel I will be unable to trust them until most of this lot of their MPs are gone.
Whether I would vote for them again is debatable after seeing all they would sacrifice of their principles and policies just to get a few Ministerial positions and a period of shared Govt.

I agree too this is really a Conservative Govt,however a very unpleasant one indeed.
Very little has been stopped by the Lib Dems as to policy from them and in fact, this has turned into likely the nastiest and most heartless Conservative run Govt post war.

Your last paragraph is so incredibly correct, it is a pity that the Lib Dem MPs don't get to see such things as you are saying in it.
One or two do think as you outline though, Sarah Teather for instance.
Your last paragraph, if you were to talk to Lib Dem councillors all over the Country,you would find very few of them disagreeing with the content of that paragraph too.