[Kizzy]

I don't agree... I think being led by the nose is sickening, nobody educates themselves anymore we are spoonfed the information it is deemed appropriate for us to have and nothing more.
I think it's important to retain as much individuality and impartiality as possible.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't agree... I think being led by the nose is sickening, nobody educates themselves anymore we are spoonfed the information it is deemed appropriate for us to have and nothing more.
I think it's important to retain as much individuality and impartiality as possible.

That's true. But I think Jesus was referring more to people deciding already whether they're guilty or innocent and then only pay attention to information that corresponds to that viewpoint and automatically rubbishing anything that contradicts it.

Actually educating yourself and making an informed decision is definitely important, I agree with you there.

[Kizzy]

Or, if you look at it another way; Facts...
All links provided on this thread by interested parties are to evidence as presented as part of the case, not heresay or opinion.
Specific information such as witness statements and evidence found at the time and or since.
It is easy to suggest opinions are wrong when it relates to speculation, but when commenting on the actual testimony of those involved it's different I would say.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Or, if you look at it another way; Facts...
All links provided on this thread by interested parties are to evidence as presented as part of the case, not heresay or opinion.
Specific information such as witness statements and evidence found at the time and or since.
It is easy to suggest opinions are wrong when it relates to speculation, but when commenting on the actual testimony of those involved it's different I would say.

umm, no. everyone in this thread has been talking about the relevant facts to the case, and most of them have been ridiculed because let's be frank, there aren't many FACTS in this case, most of the CRAP presented in this case is just speculation.


The truth is we have no ****ing idea what happened, because there are no eye witnesses, there is no body, there is no hard evidence.

There's basically NOTHING to this case. Just 1 missing girl.

People can get excited about a reinactment on TV all they want, but the fact is, nobody has a ****ing clue what happened to this little girl, and there is no solid evidence to suggest what did happen.

It's still just a tabloid cluster**** from what i can tell.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

umm, no. everyone in this thread has been talking about the relevant facts to the case, and most of them have been ridiculed because let's be frank, there aren't many FACTS in this case, most of the CRAP presented in this case is just speculation.


The truth is we have no ****ing idea what happened, because there are no eye witnesses, there is no body, there is no hard evidence.

There's basically NOTHING to this case. Just 1 missing girl.

People can get excited about a reinactment on TV all they want, but the fact is, nobody has a ****ing clue what happened to this little girl, and there is no solid evidence to suggest what did happen.

It's still just a tabloid cluster**** from what i can tell.

Read case files and witness statements ...educate yourself

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

umm, no. everyone in this thread has been talking about the relevant facts to the case, and most of them have been ridiculed because let's be frank, there aren't many FACTS in this case, most of the CRAP presented in this case is just speculation.


The truth is we have no ****ing idea what happened, because there are no eye witnesses, there is no body, there is no hard evidence.

There's basically NOTHING to this case. Just 1 missing girl.

People can get excited about a reinactment on TV all they want, but the fact is, nobody has a ****ing clue what happened to this little girl, and there is no solid evidence to suggest what did happen.

It's still just a tabloid cluster**** from what i can tell.

There are facts alex, as stated there are links to witness statements.
Read them and you'll see the difference between fact and opinion.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Or, if you look at it another way; Facts...
All links provided on this thread by interested parties are to evidence as presented as part of the case, not heresay or opinion.
Specific information such as witness statements and evidence found at the time and or since.
It is easy to suggest opinions are wrong when it relates to speculation, but when commenting on the actual testimony of those involved it's different I would say.

Opinions and facts are 2 different things Kizzy ,and when you have the facts the rest just falls into place

[Jords]

It was an interesting show, I dont think we'll ever get answers but all the best.

[Kazanne]

I have to say I really want to believe and feel for these two,just pix like this make it kinda hard.


The McCanns in a rare moment of emotional sincerity shortly after the "abduction" of their daughter.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I have to say I really want to believe and feel for these two,just pix like this make it kinda hard.


The McCanns in a rare moment of emotional sincerity shortly after the "abduction" of their daughter.

How soon after Maddie went missing was this taken?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by anniek76

How soon after Maddie went missing was this taken?

They were still in Portugal annie ,I don't know the exact date as I was sent it via email,I will try and find out.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by anniek76

How soon after Maddie went missing was this taken?

2 weeks after Maddies demise

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I have to say I really want to believe and feel for these two,just pix like this make it kinda hard.


The McCanns in a rare moment of emotional sincerity shortly after the "abduction" of their daughter.

In that photo, you can clearly see that they have a film crew with them, and you can see quite a lot of staring people in hte background too. I think it's fair to assume that there are probably well wishers or rubberneckers staring at them from in front as well, so maybe they are smiling at them, as if to acknowledge the kindness shown towards them?

I think it would be a couple of very stupid people, who, after murdering their child, decided to go on a smiley walkabout.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

In that photo, you can clearly see that they have a film crew with them, and you can see quite a lot of staring people in hte background too. I think it's fair to assume that there are probably well wishers or rubberneckers staring at them from in front as well, so maybe they are smiling at them, as if to acknowledge the kindness shown towards them?

I think it would be a couple of very stupid people, who, after murdering their child, decided to go on a smiley walkabout.

I didn't say they had murdered her Jesus,and as I said it's probably just me reading the pic wrong.

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I didn't say they had murdered her Jesus,and as I said it's probably just me reading the pic wrong.

That's fair enough. I thought you were implying it was murder because in the text underneath the pic, you wrote abducted is in quotation marks, which implies something else

But no worries. and I wasn't accusing you of accusing them of murder.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

That's fair enough. I thought you were implying it was murder because in the text underneath the pic, you wrote abducted is in quotation marks, which implies something else

But no worries. and I wasn't accusing you of accusing them of murder.

I should have made it clearer the text you refer to came with the pic,so those aren't my words,I can see why you thought that.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I have to say I really want to believe and feel for these two,just pix like this make it kinda hard.


The McCanns in a rare moment of emotional sincerity shortly after the "abduction" of their daughter.

This is the kind of crap that really gets to me... This photo does not not suggest nor prove anything! It's simply horrible insinuation.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

This is the kind of crap that really gets to me... This photo does not not suggest nor prove anything! It's simply horrible insinuation.

Do you have children Lee ?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Do you have children Lee ?

Yes 2. Why?

We've gone from it being about supposed facts, to a photograph of them.

[MTVN]

What's strange about that pic?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MTVN

What's strange about that pic?

Well if you cant see that MTVN,it must just be me

[Benjamin]

Are there any mock pictures of what she would look like now?

Originally Posted by Ben

Are there any mock pictures of what she would look like now?

I think there are some in this thread somewhere. I definitely remember seeing them about, but there has been so much stuff recently, I could be mistaken in where I saw them. I know they have definitely been made.

[Benjamin]

Tbh, Alex is right. There really isn't a lot to go on. There are no actual witnesses or hard evidence to the abduction itself.