[Z]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I'm having a hard time even beginning to think about the botched burglary, nothing taken. no disturbance, kill child accidentally, carry child round block theory tbh

Well my line of thinking is that the first room they go into is the bedroom that the kids are in and a sleepy Madeleine immediately wakes up, perhaps thinking it's her parents, they get a scare and cover her mouth and panic about what to do and accidentally smother her to death. They panic even further and bolt out of the window, thinking that the McCanns are next door and it's better to hide the evidence (her body) than to leave it there, but once they get outside they realise that running around carrying a little dead girl looks more suspicious than walking calmly as if she's asleep, so they go their separate ways (or it's one man acting alone) and one of them carries the body down to the beach or another location to get rid of the body. Maybe they take her out to sea and dump her there or maybe somewhere on land.

[Kazanne]

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id236.html

this is interesting too.

[MTVN]

Agree Zee, I think you have nailed it

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id236.html

this is interesting too.

Ah yes, the Paynes, who were practically written out of the reconstruction yesterday.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zee

Well my line of thinking is that the first room they go into is the bedroom that the kids are in and a sleepy Madeleine immediately wakes up, perhaps thinking it's her parents, they get a scare and cover her mouth and panic about what to do and accidentally smother her to death. They panic even further and bolt out of the window, thinking that the McCanns are next door and it's better to hide the evidence (her body) than to leave it there, but once they get outside they realise that running around carrying a little dead girl looks more suspicious than walking calmly as if she's asleep, so they go their separate ways (or it's one man acting alone) and one of them carries the body down to the beach or another location to get rid of the body. Maybe they take her out to sea and dump her there or maybe somewhere on land.

Right lets go with this..is it not usual when planning a burglary to have a kind of..getaway car? Or some way of getting away without people noticing you walking down the road with a load of laptops and jewelry and such?

I just cannot see burglars deciding to take the body of a girl they somehow killed accidentally. At all.

[chuff me dizzy]

As some of you will know I have been on Maddie groups for over 6 years now ,I take an active rol on following up all thing Maddie related ,we are not the evil troll McCanns try to claim we are ,they hate us as we tweet FACTS of the case, facts they want buried ,including this from 2007 ,despite what Deadwood said the Smith sighting is NOT a new breakthrough ,the Smiths gave their statements in 2007 ,but what Deadwood failed to add was the fact the Smiths said the person carrying Maddie was gerry McCann http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ah yes, the Paynes, who were practically written out of the reconstruction yesterday.

The 2 Police dogs ,favoured by the FBI who found Maddies cadaver in 5A,Hire car, Cuddlecat, car keys and most haunting Kate McCanns clothing didnt get a mention either ?

[chuff me dizzy]

See Eddie ,Keela in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EHJjpXii9o

[Marsh.]

Thanks for the links everyone.

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ah yes, the Paynes, who were practically written out of the reconstruction yesterday.

Very disturbing. As someone, I think Josy, says it's likely we'll never know the true events of that night. So many threads, dead ends, variables. Highly confusing case.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

As some of you will know I have been on Maddie groups for over 6 years now ,I take an active rol on following up all thing Maddie related ,we are not the evil troll McCanns try to claim we are ,they hate us as we tweet FACTS of the case, facts they want buried ,including this from 2007 ,despite what Deadwood said the Smith sighting is NOT a new breakthrough ,the Smiths gave their statements in 2007 ,but what Deadwood failed to add was the fact the Smiths said the person carrying Maddie was gerry McCann http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html

And the reason they would want the case to be so high profile and keep the search going is because?

For kicks?

[Z]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Right lets go with this..is it not usual when planning a burglary to have a kind of..getaway car? Or some way of getting away without people noticing you walking down the road with a load of laptops and jewelry and such?

I just cannot see burglars deciding to take the body of a girl they somehow killed accidentally. At all.

Not if you're living in Praia da Luz that relies heavily on tourism and no other form of income, I would imagine that it's quite a poor place (I have no evidence to back this up, could be completely wrong), having a car isn't all that likely if you're poor, plus it's a small place, you might have no need for one, especially if you're just an opportunistic burglar.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Thanks for the links everyone.



Very disturbing. As someone, I think Josy, says it's likely we'll never know the true events of that night. So many threads, dead ends, variables. Highly confusing case.



And the reason they would want the case to be so high profile and keep the search going is because?

For kicks?

Oh dear another "hook line sinker victim " in 2007 when McCanns screamed "abduction"they started a snowball rolling which Im sure they thought would have stopped by now, how wrong they were ,They failed to realise this is the age of the internet, things cannot get brushed under the carpet like it did in the good old days the only thing that can stop it now is the thing they dread the most ,the TRUTH please dont comments on things you know nothing about

[Z]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Oh dear another "hook line sinker victim " in 2007 when McCanns screamed "abduction"they started a snowball rolling which Im sure they thought would have stopped by now, how wrong they were ,They failed to realise this is the age of the internet, things cannot get brushed under the carpet like it did in the good old days the only thing that can stop it now is the thing they dread the most ,the TRUTH please dont comments on things you know nothing about

How condescending. None of us know what happened that night, we are all speculating just as much as each other and we've all given perfectly logical, differing opinions on the matter.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

Not if you're living in Praia da Luz that relies heavily on tourism and no other form of income, I would imagine that it's quite a poor place (I have no evidence to back this up, could be completely wrong), having a car isn't all that likely if you're poor, plus it's a small place, you might have no need for one, especially if you're just an opportunistic burglar.

Ive been to Portugal and the place it happened, its is not a third world country with a bumbling police force as some would have you believe

[Z]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Ive been to Portugal and the place it happened, its is not a third world country with a bumbling police force as some would have you believe

I'm not so much influenced by that, but more by my experiences of holiday resort towns whereby the area around the nice hotels is a paradise but the rest of the town is a slum and everyone relies totally on the tourism industry for their livelihood - is it like that or is it generally just a nice town? I don't think the police force are useless though, I think they gave the case more attention than it deserved and did their job properly.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

As some of you will know I have been on Maddie groups for over 6 years now ,I take an active rol on following up all thing Maddie related ,we are not the evil troll McCanns try to claim we are ,they hate us as we tweet FACTS of the case, facts they want buried ,including this from 2007 ,despite what Deadwood said the Smith sighting is NOT a new breakthrough ,the Smiths gave their statements in 2007 ,but what Deadwood failed to add was the fact the Smiths said the person carrying Maddie was gerry McCann http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html

What if you're wrong, chuff?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Oh dear another "hook line sinker victim " in 2007 when McCanns screamed "abduction"they started a snowball rolling which Im sure they thought would have stopped by now, how wrong they were ,They failed to realise this is the age of the internet, things cannot get brushed under the carpet like it did in the good old days the only thing that can stop it now is the thing they dread the most ,the TRUTH please dont comments on things you know nothing about

You have a serious attitude problem.

I merely asked a question, which seems to be a huge gap in your theories.

Either engage in a civil discussion or take your condescending rambles elsewhere. You are not a voice of authority, kindly step down from the pedestal.

[Jemal]

Everytime i watch Gerry Mccan talking about her, i see a slight smirk on his face...
Plus he looks like those e-fits. I mean this guy has to be the one...
BUT thing is... Friends of the parents have said Gerry never left the tapas resturant apart from once.,, and as we know Madeline was sleeping at that time... So i dunno... Im fifty fifty.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Another thing I don't quite understand is If she was taken surely she would have woken up and caused a fuss,the child they show in the media seems to be still asleep!! I know my little one would never stay asleep if a stranger picked him up and went outside with him.

Even when the police got there ,the twins were still asleep,and the apartment had been contaminated by Mcs filling it with whole tapas group they were carried out in the night air to another apartment and still they didnt wake...If you were a Mother and you thought your child had been "Taken" would you



1) Go out and look ,shout her name from balcony ?

2)Leave you babies while you run to tell someone (yes she left the twins despite thinking Maddie had been taken )

3)Ring the polce

4)Sit down calmly and write out a timeline with all your friends on the back of your missing childs colouring book, keep scribbling things out and re-doing them ,then ring Sky news ?




The Mcs did number 4

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

You have a serious attitude problem.

I merely asked a question, which seems to be a huge gap in your theories.

Either engage in a civil discussion or take your condescending rambles elsewhere. You are not a voice of authority, kindly step down from the pedestal.

As Ive said ^^^ I have spent a long time for over 6 years Im no dummy ,you cannot educate me on this case

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

As Ive said ^^^ I have spent a long time for over 6 years Im no dummy ,you cannot educate me on this case

you have spent six years wasting your time, you could of spent that time doing something meaningful and of some use.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

I'm not so much influenced by that, but more by my experiences of holiday resort towns whereby the area around the nice hotels is a paradise but the rest of the town is a slum and everyone relies totally on the tourism industry for their livelihood - is it like that or is it generally just a nice town? I don't think the police force are useless though, I think they gave the case more attention than it deserved and did their job properly.

This Crimewatch thing has been sat on for 6 months ,it has only been broadcast as try to cover up a libel case ongoing in Lisbon court where they are suing Goncalo Amaral the portuguese police Chief for libel in his book, a book which is based solely on the official police files both Uk and Pj ,The Mcs have tried to have the book banned and have lost 2 cases against him ,they are losing this one too, and they know if they do lose it ,it will prove whats been known for 6 years by people who care to look, that the police files hold the truth

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

As Ive said ^^^ I have spent a long time for over 6 years Im no dummy ,you cannot educate me on this case

Where did I attempt to educate you on anything?

You stepped into a discussion thread already in flow and patronised me for asking you a question related to your theory.

I really do not know why you have such a foul attitude, wind your neck in.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

How condescending. None of us know what happened that night, we are all speculating just as much as each other and we've all given perfectly logical, differing opinions on the matter.

Not all all, I answer people in the same tone they speak to me .the truth is out there for anyone to see, but sadly some people close their front doors and think it doesnt affect me so why should i fight for justice for a 3 yr old child

Trolling the parents of an abducted infant is pretty ******ing low.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Where did I attempt to educate you on anything?

You stepped into a discussion thread already in flow and patronised me for asking you a question related to your theory.

I really do not know why you have such a foul attitude, wind your neck in.

So this thread is for everyone apart from me ? I think its your neck that needs winding sunbeam