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I'm being slowly swayed towards independence, to be honest. Not because I think we would he instantly better off - but looking at the long-term prospects it seems like a sensible option. I actually think there would be a good few hard years or even decades to get through the teething problems. However... Currently it feels a lot like - despite the current governments fiddled figures - Britain is a sinking ship. It's still getting worse, economically and politically, especially for average working families, and I can't see things improving any time soon. And with that in mind... Scotland will be the first to be thrown to the wolves if things get much worse. Followed by the North of England, then Wales, then middle England, then the south and finally precious London. That's the order of importance.

I'm more concerned with my children's long-term wellbeing and prospects than my own short term comfort... So it's starting to seriously feel like a viable option.

It won't happen though, for one simple reason: most people are in the grips of political apathy, they dont understand the choice they're being asked to make, and when people don't understand a choice they will automatically stick with familiar territory. They feel like that's "safe", that "things are OK as they are". Not realising that the UK is in for some drastic changes either way... Either path is taking a risk.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm being slowly swayed towards independence, to be honest. Not because I think we would he instantly better off - but looking at the long-term prospects it seems like a sensible option. I actually think there would be a good few hard years or even decades to get through the teething problems. However... Currently it feels a lot like - despite the current governments fiddled figures - Britain is a sinking ship. It's still getting worse, economically and politically, especially for average working families, and I can't see things improving any time soon. And with that in mind... Scotland will be the first to be thrown to the wolves if things get much worse. Followed by the North of England, then Wales, then middle England, then the south and finally precious London. That's the order of importance.

I'm more concerned with my children's long-term wellbeing and prospects than my own short term comfort... So it's starting to seriously feel like a viable option.

It won't happen though, for one simple reason: most people are in the grips of political apathy, they dont understand the choice they're being asked to make, and when people don't understand a choice they will automatically stick with familiar territory. They feel like that's "safe", that "things are OK as they are". Not realising that the UK is in for some drastic changes either way... Either path is taking a risk.

I agree completely.. I think the Yes campaigners have to get out there in the next year and target those that are undecided/unaware/scared of change and give them the facts and answers to their questions.

I have friends who don't vote and don't care one way or the other.. Which I'll never understand. I'll personally be voting yes so hopefully my children will grow up in a fair, prosperous and proud country.

Originally Posted by Lee.

I agree completely.. I think the Yes campaigners have to get out there in the next year and target those that are undecided/unaware/scared of change and give them the facts and answers to their questions.

I have friends who don't vote and don't care one way or the other.. Which I'll never understand. I'll personally be voting yes so hopefully my children will grow up in a fair, prosperous and proud country.

Are you emigrating?

[Z]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm being slowly swayed towards independence, to be honest. Not because I think we would he instantly better off - but looking at the long-term prospects it seems like a sensible option. I actually think there would be a good few hard years or even decades to get through the teething problems. However... Currently it feels a lot like - despite the current governments fiddled figures - Britain is a sinking ship. It's still getting worse, economically and politically, especially for average working families, and I can't see things improving any time soon. And with that in mind... Scotland will be the first to be thrown to the wolves if things get much worse. Followed by the North of England, then Wales, then middle England, then the south and finally precious London. That's the order of importance.

I'm more concerned with my children's long-term wellbeing and prospects than my own short term comfort... So it's starting to seriously feel like a viable option.

It won't happen though, for one simple reason: most people are in the grips of political apathy, they dont understand the choice they're being asked to make, and when people don't understand a choice they will automatically stick with familiar territory. They feel like that's "safe", that "things are OK as they are". Not realising that the UK is in for some drastic changes either way... Either path is taking a risk.

This has been my main point whenever I've discussed the idea with friends. People in Scotland haven't been driven to a point where they've challenged their position in the United Kingdom. This has been a political movement by politicians, not a grass roots movement by the people of Scotland. So while there are a great number of people who are for independence with very valid and sound reasoning; they do not outnumber those who are either against it; don't see the point in it; or don't care about it.

However, like you, I've been pushed away from being firmly against independence as I've seen the country descend into a ludicrous farce under David Cameron's leadership. His decision making is going to alienate Scottish people even further and I think that if he continues to do so, people who are hesitant to push for Scottish independence will be kicked off that ship and take the plunge into voting for it. Scotland is not a right wing nation, it never has been and it never will be.

Originally Posted by Zee

This has been my main point whenever I've discussed the idea with friends. People in Scotland haven't been driven to a point where they've challenged their position in the United Kingdom. This has been a political movement by politicians, not a grass roots movement by the people of Scotland. So while there are a great number of people who are for independence with very valid and sound reasoning; they do not outnumber those who are either against it; don't see the point in it; or don't care about it.

However, like you, I've been pushed away from being firmly against independence as I've seen the country descend into a ludicrous farce under David Cameron's leadership. His decision making is going to alienate Scottish people even further and I think that if he continues to do so, people who are hesitant to push for Scottish independence will be kicked off that ship and take the plunge into voting for it. Scotland is not a right wing nation, it never has been and it never will be.

Don't think you're special. He alienates motherlanders just as much as colonists.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Don't think you're special. He alienates motherlanders just as much as colonists.

I don't, but Scotland is the only part of the UK with an active independence drive on the go.