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The X Factor 2013 [S10] Series 10 of ITV's music reality show, The X Factor with judges Gary, Sharon, Nicole and Louis was broadcast August - December 2013. Sam Bailey was the winner.

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I've taken drugs, hit somebody (they deserved it) and I also shoplifted when I was a teenager (only once or twice). I don't do any of those things now and I can assure you I am not scum of the Earth. We should be basing this comp on their talent not their past (I'm pretty sure most of the acts will have something they are not proud of).
A lot of people on this thread seem to be taking that attitude. I wonder if they would be saying the same if one was done 3 years ago for mugging an old lady or punching a child in the face.
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A lot of people on this thread seem to be taking that attitude. I wonder if they would be saying the same if one was done 3 years ago for mugging an old lady or punching a child in the face.
But she didn't punch an old lady so your argument is invalid.
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A lot of people on this thread seem to be taking that attitude. I wonder if they would be saying the same if one was done 3 years ago for mugging an old lady or punching a child in the face.
Those crimes are a lot more serious than petty theft though.
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Those crimes are a lot more serious than petty theft though.
if she has stolen from a store, what's to say she wouldn't steal something from an old lady with a bag wide open on the bus?
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if she has stolen from a store, what's to say she wouldn't steal something from an old lady with a bag wide open on the bus?
Because not everyone goes on to do that or there would a hell of a lot more muggings on old ladies than there currently is.
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Because not everyone goes on to do that or there would a hell of a lot more muggings on old ladies than there currently is.
is there even a statistics for number of old lady muggings?

i just don't think there is any way to tell whether she would do it or not. If anything, the only thing we can gather from her stealing is that she can't be trusted. I wouldn't risk leaving her with an old lady who has left her bag open, or in a shop with hardly any security.

again, that's just me.
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...I can only really speak for myself..tbh, I don't know I would feel because she didn't do that, so it's hard to say but I do completely understand your point....I think it was Adam in last years BB who had a 'shady past' but he had actively changed his lifestyle and helped others do the same and if he had won, for me he would have been very deserving...it's all very recent for Tamera and I have to believe what she says and that she regrets things and maybe in time and if being on XFactor gives her fame, then she too can help others and even become an 'inspiration' in many ways because she's inspires through personal and real experiences ....and the sort of thing that for many young people can be reality....
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...I can only really speak for myself..tbh, I don't know I would feel because she didn't do that, so it's hard to say but I do completely understand your point....I think it was Adam in last years BB who had a 'shady past' but he had actively changed his lifestyle and helped others do the same and if he had won, for me he would have been very deserving...it's all very recent for Tamera and I have to believe what she says and that she regrets things and maybe in time and if being on XFactor gives her fame, then she too can help others and even become an 'inspiration' in many ways because she's inspires through personal and real experiences ....and the sort of thing that for many young people can be reality....
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