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Old 19-11-2013, 09:52 PM #1
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if Jesus was alive hed be raging and preaching against the greed and exploitation of walmart, sadly this thread poster decides to make it his lifes work to destroy Jesus? If only he could see how sad and self defeating that is
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I don't know what to do with this, so I'll restate my actual opinion on the Jesus myth.

I like him - it's just a pity that religious people have ruined his message by turning him into a zombie with superpowers. He actually had many interesting things to say. Absolutely nothing he said was in any way revolutionary for the time it was said. The Greeks, Confucius, the Egyptian gods, and Buddha all said exactly the same things as he did, but many centuries before.

Christians and religious people ruled the earth for centuries, so it's extreme revisionism now to say that Jesus would be fighting for the poor (I agree he would) with the support of Christians. America is the most Christian country on earth, yet it suffers wealth disparity that rivals any of the craziest banana republics, and the most religious party in the country attacks the poor the most. We've seen this through history, and we still see it now.

It's the hypocrisy that irks me so much. I have no idea about your deeds, so I won't comment on them, but there is nothing that exists within christianity today that lives up to the standard set out by a Palestinian political rebel called Yeshua.

If you want to convert me to the message of the church (without believing the fairy stories that go with it), then refocus your efforts on reforming the church. Turn the focus to tolerance and acceptance and we'll have lots of common ground.

Let me explain how Jesus affects my life/thoughts/desperation to destroy him - he doesn't, but I know you're offended by my avatar and username, so why not follow a direct lesson from the man himself, and turn the other cheek.
 
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I don't know what to do with this, so I'll restate my actual opinion on the Jesus myth.

I like him - it's just a pity that religious people have ruined his message by turning him into a zombie with superpowers. He actually had many interesting things to say. Absolutely nothing he said was in any way revolutionary for the time it was said. The Greeks, Confucius, the Egyptian gods, and Buddha all said exactly the same things as he did, but many centuries before.

Christians and religious people ruled the earth for centuries, so it's extreme revisionism now to say that Jesus would be fighting for the poor (I agree he would) with the support of Christians. America is the most Christian country on earth, yet it suffers wealth disparity that rivals any of the craziest banana republics, and the most religious party in the country attacks the poor the most. We've seen this through history, and we still see it now.

It's the hypocrisy that irks me so much. I have no idea about your deeds, so I won't comment on them, but there is nothing that exists within christianity today that lives up to the standard set out by a Palestinian political rebel called Yeshua.

If you want to convert me to the message of the church (without believing the fairy stories that go with it), then refocus your efforts on reforming the church. Turn the focus to tolerance and acceptance and we'll have lots of common ground.

Let me explain how Jesus affects my life/thoughts/desperation to destroy him - he doesn't, but I know you're offended by my avatar and username, so why not follow a direct lesson from the man himself, and turn the other cheek.
So you help the situation by destroying Jesus? and tearing down his messages, his life ? So theres loads of hypocrites who pervert his words? big deal that's humans for you....But to tear down the actual message of Christ is self defeating and simply leaves a vacuum at the moral heart of this Christian nation built on Christian laws and values..I don't wish to convert you to anything...I just think its sad you waste your energies, talent, knowledge on destroying Chrsitiantiy
.Yes it will garner you cheap attention and give you an identity of sorts as the anti-Christian poster, but will achieve nothing but destruction.
You don't make any sense. Its sad.

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So you help the situation by destroying Jesus? and tearing down his messages, his life ? So theres loads of hypocrites who pervert his words? big deal that's humans for you....But to tear down the actual message of Christ is self defeating and simply leaves a vacuum at the moral heart of this Christian nation built on Christian laws and values..I don't wish to convert you to anything...I just think its sad you waste your energies, talent, knowledge on destroying Chrsitiantiy
.Yes it will garner you cheap attention and give you an identity of sorts as the anti-Christian poster, but will achieve nothing but destruction.
You don't make any sense. Its sad.
Wait a minute. The whole purpose of the life of Jesus was so that god could sacrifice him, and thus enabling forgiveness to us for the fact that his first human creation ate a magic piece of fruit, after being talked into it by a talking snake.

During his life he faced temptation and attack from not only the dirty Jews, but the devil himself, and yet an internet avatar and username on the internet is playing a role in destroying his message? Am I more powerful than either god or satan?

How about blaming the christians that ruled the world for hundreds of years, showing absolutely no tolerance, no thought for the poor, and zero compassion, for ruining the message of Jesus? How about you challenge Christians around the world today that still have more interest in collecting their own 30 pieces of silver, over and above any message of love? How about aiming your ire in the right direction?

Christians are very rarely Christ-like. In the same way that you condemn and judge others, don't. Lest thee be judged.

We are not a nation built on Christian values - we are a nation that had to fight off the church and monarchy to introduce secular values.

People that support the teachings of Jesus should be socialists, not Christians.
 
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Wait a minute. The whole purpose of the life of Jesus was so that god could sacrifice him, and thus enabling forgiveness to us for the fact that his first human creation ate a magic piece of fruit, after being talked into it by a talking snake.

During his life he faced temptation and attack from not only the dirty Jews, but the devil himself, and yet an internet avatar and username on the internet is playing a role in destroying his message? Am I more powerful than either god or satan?

How about blaming the christians that ruled the world for hundreds of years, showing absolutely no tolerance, no thought for the poor, and zero compassion, for ruining the message of Jesus? How about you challenge Christians around the world today that still have more interest in collecting their own 30 pieces of silver, over and above any message of love? How about aiming your ire in the right direction?

Christians are very rarely Christ-like. In the same way that you condemn and judge others, don't. Lest thee be judged.

We are not a nation built on Christian values - we are a nation that had to fight off the church and monarchy to introduce secular values.

People that support the teachings of Jesus should be socialists, not Christians.
Yes we had to fight against Christs nasty teachings about love, charity, forgiveness , redemption, truth justice, fighting for the poor and healing the sick.....wow how did we overcame that horrible man Jesus?

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Yes we had to fight against Christs nasty teachings about love, charity, forgiveness , redemption, truth justice, fighting for the poor and healing the sick.....wow how did we overcame that horrible man Jesus?
That's a pretty pathetic, sarcastic, apology for an argument.
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That's a pretty pathetic, sarcastic, apology for an argument.

It's all that can be expected. He has nowhere else to go, because he certainly doesn't want to tackle me on the points.
 
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That's a pretty pathetic, sarcastic, apology for an argument.
No its not , its 100% accurate.
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Yes we had to fight against Christs nasty teachings about love, charity, forgiveness , redemption, truth justice, fighting for the poor and healing the sick.....wow how did we overcame that horrible man Jesus?
At which point during it's extended Christian rule, has this country ever been about love, charity, forgiveness, redemption, truth justice, fighting for the poor and healing the sick?
 
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some has and some hasn't, you need to do your homework on what enormous great works has been carried out in the name of jesus , worldwide. The fact his words have been at times hijacked by self serving scum like the monarchy is no reflection on Jesus at all. You need to redicrect your hate away from Jesus and towards those who corrupted his words, the monarchy.
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