[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No jack they didn't... that's a lie.
Show me one comment from someone who opted out.
These are some ridiculous lengths to go to, and I'm stunned at the passionate comments made by people desprate to 'throw shade'
I wish James woyld bring it back as this is going to cause the people who opted out of the last razzies no end of ****!

That's just it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody is annoyed at those who opted out, we are annoyed at the small group of ****wits who ruined this for everyone else!

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No jack they didn't... that's a lie.
Show me one comment from someone who opted out.
These are some ridiculous lengths to go to, and I'm stunned at the passionate comments made by people desprate to 'throw shade'
I wish James woyld bring it back as this is going to cause the people who opted out of the last razzies no end of ****!

And actually some of those who did opt out still continued to post in the thread which is what started the argument because they were trying to get the Razzies ended. As a mod at the time I saw everything and actually had to deal with a lot of it.

[Glenn.]

I don't understand how someone can have such strong opinions on the Razzies, put a downer on the whole thing, but chooses to have no part in them anyway?

If you want no part in them, keep away from the threads and any conversation about them. In my opinion you lose, for want of a better word, the 'right' to have any say so if you choose to opt out. It's something I never understood with a few members after the Opt Out feature was introduced. Deciding they wanted no part of them, yet hell bent on on sniping in the threads etc. My mind boggles.

[Black Dagger]

Can I just say, why the **** does sports get worst forum when the likes of HELLS ****ING KITCHEN, STILL EXISTS..

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Ben

And actually some of those who did opt out still continued to post in the thread which is what started the argument because they were trying to get the Razzies ended. As a mod at the time I saw everything and actually had to deal with a lot of it.

Exactly. This is my point.

And wasn't last year's thread deleted? That way I can't find proof.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Can I just say, why the **** does sports get worst forum when the likes of HELLS ****ING KITCHEN, STILL EXISTS..

-voted for Hell's Kitchen last time-

[Drew.]

Ending the Razzies has caused more arguments than the event itself

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ben

I want everyone involved in this annoying petty bickering/sniping to stop. Honestly most of the forum is so sick of hearing about it now. We don't care who has the last word or who can outdo the other with a snipe because we really do not care, the last year has seen to that.

And I never said you were confrontational etc, stop putting words into my mouth or reading into things that are not there.

But the Razzies has been effected because of it, when the majority of the forum take it in good spirits.

I opted out of a game ben, get some perspective...
I'm not responsible for anyone else on the forum ok? I won't be spoken down to ben, if everyone stuck to the discussion and not fixate on the opinions of individuals there wouldn't be a problem.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ben

That's just it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody is annoyed at those who opted out, we are annoyed at the small group of ****wits who ruined this for everyone else!

Only 3 people opted out ben, you're contradicting yourself. One min you say your cross because the opt outs were spoiling it then it's the 'clique' which is half the forum...

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Only 3 people opted out ben, you're contradicting yourself. One min you say your cross because the opt outs were spoiling it then it's the 'clique' which is half the forum...

It happens that two of the people who ruined it were opt outs, no contradiction. Others were an opt out and they were fine and caused no trouble.

[Jack.]

Could I just ask what's the razzies ??

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ben

And actually some of those who did opt out still continued to post in the thread which is what started the argument because they were trying to get the Razzies ended. As a mod at the time I saw everything and actually had to deal with a lot of it.

Who then... who commented?
You had to deal with reported posts due to the sniping of those involved not those who weren't.
Nobody has tried to get the razzies ended, I said I didn't like them...and I didn't want to take part but I didn't want them ended!
This is going to make me about as popular as syphilis...yey.

[T*]

I had a dream that this thread turned into a sports discussion thread and Idek why.
My brain is weird

[Kyle]

Just for clarification, the people that opted out, does that mean that none of their threads could be nominated to win?

If that's the case what's the problem?


Could there be an 'opt in' option instead just in case a few people forget to opt out and get caught up in it?

[Natalie.]

Wish I had been on here when the razzies happened now we're not having it anymore

I tell you what is hilarious, if I'd written half the posts in this thread since Matt made the announcement, I'd have an inbox full of infractions.

People can blame me for whatever and I don't give a s**t, and all this false equivalency does my absolute head in. It shows how lacking in understanding and insight some of the people on this forum really are. Start a thread asking for help and everyone rushes in, have a genuine issue and everyone rushes to condemn you. I've already opted out of all future versions of all games like Razzies/ML/Awards because of how much hassle it is for me personally, and the s**t it causes the forum, so you can all ****** off if you want to hassle me about loving the drama. Let a small select group get back to choosing who's turn it is to win these things.

That's what kind of a ******ed up community this is. Shaun constantly bitches about people on here, yet nothing gets said, and with insults far stronger than little snipes. But that's ok - he's been around longer and is part of us, and he runs games.

I can be an arse at times, no denying, but a lot of the people I've had issues in the past with will also note how quickly I've been to apologise and talk it through with them, but I do this sincerely and away from the forum, so no one hears about it. The ******ing holier than thou revisionism is hilarious.

[Benjamin]

If it makes you feel better I did get infracted for my (now deleted) speech to Kizzy.

[Benjamin]

-is also expecting a few more today-

[Kazanne]

Well far be it from me to put my size 5s in,but I opted out too,I cant even remember much of it tbh,but if we are shooting from the hip here,I will say I think Kizzy gets a very unfair ride on here,all she does is state her opinions which is supposedly what a forum is about and she sucks up to no one,so please or offend I kinda admire that,I dislike the way some are scared to say what they REALLY feel for fear of a ban,so maybe don't blame it on certain individuals,afterall it takes two and lets face it Kizzy gets loads of flack as does Chuff,we may not always agree with what they say,but we have to get past that.I myself get really angry sometimes,I just stay away as sometimes it's pointless trying to get a point across,I think Kizzy is a good member we need a few Kizzys/Chuffs.the only reason I opted out the razzies was because I feel its a bit silly but I would never want it stopped because of that(just incase anyone is pointing a finger at me)and ben as much as I like you,I was surprised at that outburst,chill man You can all shoot me now

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well far be it from me to put my size 5s in,but I opted out too,I cant even remember much of it tbh,but if we are shooting from the hip here,I will say I think Kizzy gets a very unfair ride on here,all she does is state her opinions which is supposedly what a forum is about and she sucks up to no one,so please or offend I kinda admire that,I dislike the way some are scared to say what they REALLY feel for fear of a ban,so maybe don't blame it on certain individuals,afterall it takes two and lets face it Kizzy gets loads of flack as does Chuff,we may not always agree with what they say,but we have to get past that.I myself get really angry sometimes,I just stay away as sometimes it's pointless trying to get a point across,I think Kizzy is a good member we need a few Kizzys/Chuffs.the only reason I opted out the razzies was because I feel its a bit silly but I would never want it stopped because of that(just incase anyone is pointing a finger at me)and ben as much as I like you,I was surprised at that outburst,chill man You can all shoot me now

Kizzy can be a good member but she often has a chip on her shoulder and looks to pick a fight. And over the last year the sniping between a few members seems to take over a fair few threads and it is not fair on the majority of us who don't give a **** if they hate each other yet we have to sit there and go through it time after time after time and watch as threads/events then become ruined.

[Jemal]

There are alot of people who follow fashion and dont speak their mind tho.
I know i dont do that, i just have a preferred bunch of people i like talking too.
I also do agree with Kaz that a lot of people do hold back because their scared of a ban but yeah, sometimes the members you find annoying can be known as a great member in other people's eyes.

I have people on here who i can't stand lol, but if im in a heated debate, after I've calmed down abit i then realise its a forum and your gonna have people you don't agree with or dont nessecarily like. Or in Ben and Kaz's case have opposite opinions on a particular member.

[Benjamin]

I will just say again (as I think that part was also deleted) I know it isn't just Kizzy, there are members that go out of their way to snipe at her just as much and they are equally responsible and tiresome.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

I tell you what is hilarious, if I'd written half the posts in this thread since Matt made the announcement, I'd have an inbox full of infractions.

People can blame me for whatever and I don't give a s**t, and all this false equivalency does my absolute head in. It shows how lacking in understanding and insight some of the people on this forum really are. Start a thread asking for help and everyone rushes in, have a genuine issue and everyone rushes to condemn you. I've already opted out of all future versions of all games like Razzies/ML/Awards because of how much hassle it is for me personally, and the s**t it causes the forum, so you can all ****** off if you want to hassle me about loving the drama. Let a small select group get back to choosing who's turn it is to win these things.

That's what kind of a ******ed up community this is. Shaun constantly bitches about people on here, yet nothing gets said, and with insults far stronger than little snipes. But that's ok - he's been around longer and is part of us, and he runs games.

I can be an arse at times, no denying, but a lot of the people I've had issues in the past with will also note how quickly I've been to apologise and talk it through with them, but I do this sincerely and away from the forum, so no one hears about it. The ******ing holier than thou revisionism is hilarious.

This is so true, some members get not even a day ban forwishing death on a member whilst other members get a worse infraction for saying an album is flopping. Thats the reason the infraction 'points' have dissapeared

This is pure facts

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Jemal

There are alot of people who follow fashion and dont speak their mind tho.
I know i dont do that, i just have a preferred bunch of people i like talking too.
I also do agree with Kaz that a lot of people do hold back because their scared of a ban but yeah, sometimes the members you find annoying can be known as a great member in other people's eyes.

I have people on here who i can't stand lol, but if im in a heated debate, after I've calmed down abit i then realise its a forum and your gonna have people you don't agree with or dont nessecarily like. Or in Ben and Kaz's case have opposite opinions on a particular member.

Yeh I got a bit of a shock when I first joined here I was getting banned left, right and centre. I've had to tone it down a bit and now I've been unbanned for quite a while. But if that's what it takes to keep 'order' then who am I to complain I've never run a forum before so I don't know what it's like lol

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ben

Kizzy can be a good member but she often has a chip on her shoulder and looks to pick a fight. And over the last year the sniping between a few members seems to take over a fair few threads and it is not fair on the majority of us who don't give a **** if they hate each other yet we have to sit there and go through it time after time after time and watch as threads/events then become ruined.

Yes very Sexy