[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Josy

Salman I know you did but someone posted that crazy frog one a while back, that's the link Locke used.

He never saved your image.

Who did that?
Well anyway can you delete that post please because I don't want it used it against me in future

[Jake.]

So who's looking forward to Coach Trip 2

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Good times Jemal

H.M.S Samuel shipmates ftw

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Because about a day or two after I posted about somebody else and you took it upon yourself to say that I was on about you and being poisoned by Kizzy when I wasn't even on about you.

That doesn't make sense, but in our email exchange you said I'd posted something that offended you, I apologised and said it wasn't my intention, and I also said, if I say something again like that (because I more than likely will then let me know and we can talk). You agreed, and we both acknowledged it was a worthy discussion. You went straight back on that agreement.

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by Jake.

So who's looking forward to Coach Trip 2

Oh that reminds me...

[Jake.]

Reminds you of what lol

Anyway, I'm leaving this thread now before my 3/4 posts in this discussion are used against me in another example of false equivalency. Jesus posted in that thread - that must mean he's responsible. I know how this works, as I've seen this move a **** load of times before.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Anyway, I'm leaving this thread now before my 3/4 posts in this discussion are used against me in another example of false equivalency. Jesus posted in that thread - that must mean he's responsible. I know how this works, as I've seen this move a **** load of times before.

Half of TiBB agree with you, I wouldn't worry

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

That doesn't make sense, but in our email exchange you said I'd posted something that offended you, I apologised and said it wasn't my intention, and I also said, if I say something again like that (because I more than likely will then let me know and we can talk). You agreed, and we both acknowledged it was a worthy discussion. You went straight back on that agreement.

No you did when I made a post about some people being favoured on here and for some reason you waltzed in going " I wonder who he means" and when Kizzy called you out on it you accused her of poisoning me. To me that was it and since thenWe haven't spoken to each other apart from on a topic where I told you I'd rather not talk to you anymore and that's the way it is now and that's fine by me. As far a I'm concerned that's knocking it on the head I don't talk to you, you don't talk to me. No forum complications.

So do what you want but like I'm not going to pollute the forum with back and forths from me and you it's best we just ignore each other and it's worked good for the last week and a half.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

This is said constantly and is quite honestly bull**** tbh, the members that don't get on here don't want to and that's it, they will argue day in day out because it's what they want to do, they thrive off of drama.

The same goes for all the 'we need a private thread' etc, no we don't because it would be a novelty that would wear off in a few days for the simple fact that there would be no rule breaking and no audience.

Far too many on here are too quick to blame others for the things that happen and can never ever take any responsibility for their own actions.

I take this is for me, seeing as you said that last paragraph to me yesterday?
I'll ask you what I asked ben, I have said all this before.. what do you want me to do, put up with it, leave, laugh it off?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I take this is for me, seeing as you said that last paragraph to me yesterday?
I'll ask you what I asked ben, I have said all this before.. what do you want me to do, put up with it, leave, laugh it off?

No Kizzy it wasn't aimed at you but as usual you took it to be....

[The Human Santapede]

Anyway back to what this discussion was originally about.

With the Razzies could we not just trial it this once with an Opt-in method and have it in a private sub forum (like the pub quiz team rooms) to keep it off the forum?

Most of the drama didn't come from the actual awards itself.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

No Kizzy it wasn't aimed at you but as usual you took it to be....

Josy you used those exact words to me via PM, and then you state them on here and i'm not expected to think you could mean me?... I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous.

If I had said that you would be accusing me of sniping, not saying you are you understand.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Josy you used those exact words to me via PM, and then you state them on here and i'm not expected to think you could mean me?... I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous.

If I had said that you would be accusing me of sniping, not saying you are you understand.

Like I said to you before Kizzy, not every single comment that someone you dislike or have had a disagreement with posts is aimed at you, don't you get that?

I was replying to Ben and talking about forum members in general you weren't mentioned in any way.

I'm not getting into all this again with you because its the same thing over and over and this thread has already been taken wayyyyy off topic.

[Kizzy]

Don't turn it on me josy, I don't dislike anyone or have any grudges.
So it's just an unintentional coincidence that you used the same words? Ok.

[T*]

Right, I'm not in here to start arguments.
Basically, I agree with Ben, we should just try it again but with an opt in option, not opt out. People may be pressured to not opt out and it it's opt in instead, people will feel more comfortable. Now, let's get this thread back on the rails, shall we?

[T*]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Don't turn it on me josy, I don't dislike anyone or have any grudges.
So it's just an unintentional coincidence that you used the same words? Ok.

Let's STOP now.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cuda

Let's STOP now.

You ain't my muvva!

[Holly Christmas]

Originally Posted by James

I didn't really want to put this up for discussion (as it will inevitably cause more trouble) but seeing as it has been mentioned already.

These are the reasons I can think of for not allowing Razzies.

There are controversies on the forum that would come up again during Razzies that I don't think we need to keep re-visiting.

There is a cliquey thing going on at the moment, and, as we have seen before, block voting would happen just to make sure certain people 'win'.

I think on the one hand, Razzies reward infamy on the forum and people acting like idiots. On the other hand, others might feel like they are being picked on and not want to come on again. We don't want to drive people away.

Originally Posted by Ammi

..with respect James, I think it’s equally as likely to ‘drive people away’ when they’re constantly feeling that decisions are being made about things that have been ‘tradition’ for a while and that they’ve enjoyed and by an admin that doesn’t seem particularly interested in the forum unless it’s to ‘take something away’...maybe if members felt that this was more of a MOD decision because they were against it and felt it caused too much trouble/hassle, because they do know the forum..then it would be easier...but yeah, you’ve made your decision ....so I don’t really have anything else to say...


..and this is from someone who never even votes in them but can definitely see that balance is needed and the Razzies gives it in a more structured way than it being more ‘spread out’ and seeping through threads....

Sorry, in my opinion this is utter piffle

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well, that didn't happen.
That started the 'some people' comments... 'some people' are killjoys 'some people' are trying to ruin everything 'some people' shouldn't be allowed to view the razzies!
What that meant was, we're furious we can't stick pins in you so we'll do it indirectly instead.
This is only my view understand, I'm not speaking for anyone else.
It's how it appeared to me at the time.

It's my view as well, which won't be a surprise to anyone.

Originally Posted by Cuda

Right, I'm not in here to start arguments.
Basically, I agree with Ben, we should just try it again but with an opt in option, not opt out. People may be pressured to not opt out and it it's opt in instead, people will feel more comfortable. Now, let's get this thread back on the rails, shall we?

It won't be brought back now, James decision is final. Good on him. I can stop making my annual case for why it's not a good thing, hallelujah, thank you.

[The Human Santapede]

To be honest I would expect it will still go ahead, just not on here.

[Holly Christmas]

Originally Posted by Ben

To be honest I would expect it will still go ahead, just not on here.

Right and then people will come on here and discuss it and who said what about who and it'll be a lot more vicious etc etc, therefore causing even more aggro. What a tremendous idea

[Samm]

Now I know what the razzie is bring it BACK

[The Human Santapede]

Trouble is banning it from here won't stop it from happening, at least having it on here it can be controlled to a better degree.

Are we seriously suggesting there hasn't been another place offsite where people have been slagged off for over a year, that has also caused grief over here? Is that where this place is now?

[Holly Christmas]

Edit: deleted my comment as it could be deemed retaliatory. Never mind.