[Jack_]

Originally Posted by sampvt

We can always rely on you jack to jump up there and offer us the voice of reason regarding issues that sometimes get clouded in politicl correctness. Between you and the Stupid ho girl, you might reach enough years to buy beer, but in terms of decency, you are confusing others peoples ability or indeed tollerance to view a subject that some of us find disturbing.

I doubt your grandad would agree with your views or probably well in excess of more that 75% of the GBP. However your tenderness in years like your little mate, have only learned you to shove your opinions down others throats and be dammed if they disagree with you. It seems the norm for kids nowadays that should be out climbing trees and eating bugs, to be sitting alone in a bedroom playing johnny no mates for most of the day and barking at the moon when anyone dares to challenge their beliefs.

If you relate back to last year, we had a very similar conversation but that was probably before puberty struck in so i would at least expect you to understand or even agree with the fact that not everyone revels in the art of same sex relationships, in fact some of us older and far wiser punters actually find the subject sickening but thats just us.

You can shout all you want but like the snooker players I am watching at the moment, i prefer the pink to the brown and always will so please try to accept my view as we are both allowed an opinion.

So much wrong with this post, where do I begin?

Originally Posted by sampvt

Between you and the Stupid ho girl, you might reach enough years to buy beer

Well I'm 18 and I'm pretty sure StupidHoe is 16 or 17 so that's what...35? Seventeen years above the legal drinking age in the UK? Think you've got your maths mixed up pal

Originally Posted by sampvt

but in terms of decency, you are confusing others peoples ability or indeed tollerance to view a subject that some of us find disturbing.

You find homosexuality 'disturbing'? You're definitely in the minority on that one in 2013, thankfully. Though it is disturbing that you could be so bothered about two women kissing, I'll ask you again - would you be bothered if it were a man and a woman? Objecting to personal displays of affection is perfectly reasonable - many do - but on the grounds that it's between two members of the same sex? Yeah, just disturbing. Or maybe saddening, that's probably the word.

Originally Posted by sampvt

I doubt your grandad would agree with your views or probably well in excess of more that 75% of the GBP.

He's dead, but thanks for that. He was also a lot more tolerant and a nicer man than you are.

And hang on, are you trying to insinuate 75% of the British public are repulsed by homosexuality? I think recent statistics would suggest otherwise.

Originally Posted by sampvt

have only learned you to shove your opinions down others throats and be dammed if they disagree with you.

This is quite ironic given the post I'm replying to and the fact you created an unnecessary thread on StupidHoe's signature, which was rightfully closed my a mod.

Originally Posted by sampvt

It seems the norm for kids nowadays that should be out climbing trees and eating bugs, to be sitting alone in a bedroom playing johnny no mates for most of the day and barking at the moon when anyone dares to challenge their beliefs.

I have plenty of friends, thanks. And go out most weekends. Not that you'd know that, unless you stalk me...perhaps you do, wouldn't put it past you. But then we've had this discussion before anyway haven't we, who are you to decide what people should be doing with their own lives? What is 'having a life'? Could you define that for me because I didn't realise there was a certain code that all people must fulfil in order for you to determine that they are 'having a life'? Please enlighten us.

Originally Posted by sampvt

If you relate back to last year, we had a very similar conversation but that was probably before puberty struck in

You must have a terrible memory, because you know full well how old I am...so I guess you're just trying to be patronising and bait me again making tiresome remarks to my age that bare no relevance to this discussion whatsoever and are actually factually incorrect, which makes it all the more hilarious. Shame.

Originally Posted by sampvt

i would at least expect you to understand or even agree with the fact that not everyone revels in the art of same sex relationships,

Could you please refer me to a post I've made on this forum where I suggested they do?

Originally Posted by sampvt

in fact some of us older and far wiser punters actually find the subject sickening but thats just us.

Yes, you're oh so much wiser for being so close minded as to be disgusted by two people of the same sex kissing. So much wiser for thinking homosexuality is oh so repulsive, and oh so much wiser for being actually so bothered as to even care about who or what other people that you don't even know wish to do in their personal lives. Yes, that's so wise. So intelligent. So...tolerant, and open minded.

You also seem to be relating age to intelligence which is amusingly ironic.

And thankfully, some of us more tolerant, open minded, um...more...regular people, would find your beliefs on this matter 'sickening'.

Originally Posted by sampvt

You can shout all you want but like the snooker players I am watching at the moment, i prefer the pink to the brown and always will so please try to accept my view as we are both allowed an opinion.

Well I'm delighted your sexuality is cemented...do you want a medal or something?

You can prefer whatever you want, but if you're going to object to a signature which has two women kissing on the grounds that it's not your sexuality or sexual preference and it's not the kind of thing you're used to seeing them um...yeah, you're just wrong. Objecting to PDA, sure...but because it's two women? Nah, think you're gonna be alone on that one mate.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by BuddyTheElf

So much wrong with this post, where do I begin?



Well I'm 18 and I'm pretty sure StupidHoe is 16 or 17 so that's what...35? Seventeen years above the legal drinking age in the UK? Think you've got your maths mixed up pal



You find homosexuality 'disturbing'? You're definitely in the minority on that one in 2013, thankfully. Though it is disturbing that you could be so bothered about two women kissing, I'll ask you again - would you be bothered if it were a man and a woman? Objecting to personal displays of affection is perfectly reasonable - many do - but on the grounds that it's between two members of the same sex? Yeah, just disturbing. Or maybe saddening, that's probably the word.



He's dead, but thanks for that. He was also a lot more tolerant and a nicer man than you are.

And hang on, are you trying to insinuate 75% of the British public are repulsed by homosexuality? I think recent statistics would suggest otherwise.



This is quite ironic given the post I'm replying to and the fact you created an unnecessary thread on StupidHoe's signature, which was rightfully closed my a mod.



I have plenty of friends, thanks. And go out most weekends. Not that you'd know that, unless you stalk me...perhaps you do, wouldn't put it past you. But then we've had this discussion before anyway haven't we, who are you to decide what people should be doing with their own lives? What is 'having a life'? Could you define that for me because I didn't realise there was a certain code that all people must fulfil in order for you to determine that they are 'having a life'? Please enlighten us.



You must have a terrible memory, because you know full well how old I am...so I guess you're just trying to be patronising and bait me again making tiresome remarks to my age that bare no relevance to this discussion whatsoever and are actually factually incorrect, which makes it all the more hilarious. Shame.



Could you please refer me to a post I've made on this forum where I suggested they do?



Yes, you're oh so much wiser for being so close minded as to be disgusted by two people of the same sex kissing. So much wiser for thinking homosexuality is oh so repulsive, and oh so much wiser for being actually so bothered as to even care about who or what other people that you don't even know wish to do in their personal lives. Yes, that's so wise. So intelligent. So...tolerant, and open minded.

You also seem to be relating age to intelligence which is amusingly ironic.

And thankfully, some of us more tolerant, open minded, um...more...regular people, would find your beliefs on this matter 'sickening'.



Well I'm delighted your sexuality is cemented...do you want a medal or something?

You can prefer whatever you want, but if you're going to object to a signature which has two women kissing on the grounds that it's not your sexuality or sexual preference and it's not the kind of thing you're used to seeing them um...yeah, you're just wrong. Objecting to PDA, sure...but because it's two women? Nah, think you're gonna be alone on that one mate.

Jack son, I wont go into a long diatribe about your retort, all I will say is that if you think that the majority of people living in the UK at the moment applaud same sex relationships then I must tell you that you are wrong. Most people TOLLERATE it but when it comes to someone deliberately posting a signature of the like that Stupid ho has, I am afraid you will need to search long and hard to find a majority decision on like over dislike.

The sad fact that your whole message seems to point at the fact that, in your eyes, being straight seems to be a bad thing. Lets hope people like me stick around for the future because the last time I looked, babies and future generations of little cyber warriors like you came from daddy planting a seed in mummies baby factory, the rest of this line wont be printed as most readers will have a fair idea of what I am trying to say without feeding the mods with more ammo to infract me over something as silly as this post.

Judging by your years and the number of posts you have made tells me that the great outdoors and your so called social skills are somewhat exaggerated. I have no problems with your posting skills but I do draw the line at being lectured by someone that seems to bend the truth to suit his own aims and demeanour. As a granddad, I am proud to say that being straight is normal and its pretty irresponsible of you to suggest otherwise or even try to justify the filth that your mate stupid ho is posting. I have no problems with lesbians or gays as my son is one but I wont have what should be behind closed doors, being shoved down my throat for some political aim by someone who really does not qualify as an adult till next year.

You are both a pair of kids that need to get rid of the laptops and work on being happy. Don't argue with your elders as they know best and one day you will understand what I mean.

[sampvt]

Jack I just noticed, you are 18 and started posting 5 yrs ago at 13 and have nearly 5000 posts per year. Jesus Christ lad, ditch the laptop please, its not a tool its a toy.

[Jack_]

Right, so we've established one thing. People in the UK tolerate homosexuality. Therefore, they would tolerate StupidHoe's signature. It existing doesn't mean it needs to be celebrated, as far as I'm aware myself or any other member hasn't started a thread declaring she needs to be given some ****ing award for it, they've just...um...glanced at it and scrolled on, barely even acknowledging its existence? You are, as far as I have seen, the only person that has actually drawn any attention to it or even cared about it whatsoever. By your own admission if people in the UK are tolerant of homosexuality they would therefore be tolerant of that signature (clearly the majority of this forum are, you seem to be the only one with a problem), and they'd also be tolerant of seeing that in public, unless of course they aren't a fan of PDA which is perfectly reasonable.

To add to the now ever growing list of things you need to provide me of evidence of, this suggestion that I have ever claimed or indeed insinuated that being straight 'is a bad thing' is now one of them. I'm starting to get quite irritated that you're making these wildly outlandish claims which are grossly untrue and you haven't got any evidence to back them up. So if you're going to make such a bizarre accusation, would you mind proving it? Or else quit it, thanks. No sexuality is a 'bad thing', how can it possibly be a 'bad thing'? That's just, well, moronic. Can that even be a belief? That a sexuality is a 'bad thing'? It exists, it can't be bad. It isn't something that we can stop, it's not tangible. And besides, if I truly thought being straight was such a bad thing, why would I be friends with well...nearly almost 100% straight people?

I never said being straight wasn't normal, and I never suggested otherwise. So provide me proof of this or kindly shut up.

'Justify the filth she is posting'...what? Firstly it isn't filth...fact. And secondly trying to decipher whether you have an issue with PDA, or the fact it's homosexual PDA (you still haven't answered this question, are you going to or are you just going to continue to troll?) is not justifying anything.

Okay so you think kissing should be something that's kept behind closed doors, okay, fair enough...perfectly reasonable. So answer this question. If that sig, or anyone else's for that matter, were one of a man and a woman kissing - would you want that to be kept behind closed doors too? Would you be creating threads asking for it to be removed? Answer the question.

I'm perfectly happy thanks and certainly more happy than someone that has so much pent up anger and hatred towards swathes of people they don't even know just because of a part of their life that's beyond their control and is totally irrelevant to how they are as a person. When you get rid of the hate, you become a happier person, perhaps you should try it

As for the number crunching of my post count, we've had this discussion before and if you remember correctly I put you straight. 20,000 posts across five years works out at 4k a year, which is 333 posts a month, which is 83 posts a week and 11 posts a day...on average. You factor in on-season posts which make up the majority of them and yeah, that's really not a lot of time. Perhaps also try factoring in the fact that for four and a half years of my time on here I was under 18, so unless you wanted me to go out on the street drinking with the rest of the people that I knew (which I'm sure you'd actually object to in any other thread), I'm not entirely sure what you wanted me to be doing, especially given the fairly dull location that I live.

And of course, the best thing about this issue which you dragged up last time, is that you criticise my post count, yet I don't see you doing the same to some of your friends on here...Chuff has almost 19,000 posts and she only joined almost four years ago...the averages work out quite differently. So where's the criticism of her, eh?

[Godric]

who the hell is voting for this David guy.. how did he reach the final, if he wins I'll be pissed

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by BuddyTheElf

Right, so we've established one thing. People in the UK tolerate homosexuality. Therefore, they would tolerate StupidHoe's signature. It existing doesn't mean it needs to be celebrated, as far as I'm aware myself or any other member hasn't started a thread declaring she needs to be given some ****ing award for it, they've just...um...glanced at it and scrolled on, barely even acknowledging its existence? You are, as far as I have seen, the only person that has actually drawn any attention to it or even cared about it whatsoever. By your own admission if people in the UK are tolerant of homosexuality they would therefore be tolerant of that signature (clearly the majority of this forum are, you seem to be the only one with a problem), and they'd also be tolerant of seeing that in public, unless of course they aren't a fan of PDA which is perfectly reasonable.

To add to the now ever growing list of things you need to provide me of evidence of, this suggestion that I have ever claimed or indeed insinuated that being straight 'is a bad thing' is now one of them. I'm starting to get quite irritated that you're making these wildly outlandish claims which are grossly untrue and you haven't got any evidence to back them up. So if you're going to make such a bizarre accusation, would you mind proving it? Or else quit it, thanks. No sexuality is a 'bad thing', how can it possibly be a 'bad thing'? That's just, well, moronic. Can that even be a belief? That a sexuality is a 'bad thing'? It exists, it can't be bad. It isn't something that we can stop, it's not tangible. And besides, if I truly thought being straight was such a bad thing, why would I be friends with well...nearly almost 100% straight people?

I never said being straight wasn't normal, and I never suggested otherwise. So provide me proof of this or kindly shut up.

'Justify the filth she is posting'...what? Firstly it isn't filth...fact. And secondly trying to decipher whether you have an issue with PDA, or the fact it's homosexual PDA (you still haven't answered this question, are you going to or are you just going to continue to troll?) is not justifying anything.

Okay so you think kissing should be something that's kept behind closed doors, okay, fair enough...perfectly reasonable. So answer this question. If that sig, or anyone else's for that matter, were one of a man and a woman kissing - would you want that to be kept behind closed doors too? Would you be creating threads asking for it to be removed? Answer the question.

I'm perfectly happy thanks and certainly more happy than someone that has so much pent up anger and hatred towards swathes of people they don't even know just because of a part of their life that's beyond their control and is totally irrelevant to how they are as a person. When you get rid of the hate, you become a happier person, perhaps you should try it

As for the number crunching of my post count, we've had this discussion before and if you remember correctly I put you straight. 20,000 posts across five years works out at 4k a year, which is 333 posts a month, which is 83 posts a week and 11 posts a day...on average. You factor in on-season posts which make up the majority of them and yeah, that's really not a lot of time. Perhaps also try factoring in the fact that for four and a half years of my time on here I was under 18, so unless you wanted me to go out on the street drinking with the rest of the people that I knew (which I'm sure you'd actually object to in any other thread), I'm not entirely sure what you wanted me to be doing, especially given the fairly dull location that I live.

And of course, the best thing about this issue which you dragged up last time, is that you criticise my post count, yet I don't see you doing the same to some of your friends on here...Chuff has almost 19,000 posts and she only joined almost four years ago...the averages work out quite differently. So where's the criticism of her, eh?

way way too long son and at 2 45 in the morning you should be in bed so as not to sleep in. That is if you have a job. Anyway I refuse to debate this further as you seem to live in a bubble and make no sense so Ill see you again when bb cranks up. I wont be visiting this site tomorrow but you really need to talk to an adult about your lifes choices and options. You seem to be heading towards a life fraught with problems, least of all brought about by your attitude towards straight people.

[Jack_]

Hm, suddenly pretending it's too late to answer a question that you've now avoided on numerous occasions is quite amusing. But then you don't need to answer it do you because your hypocrisy is plain for everyone to see. You wouldn't be complaining if it were a straight couple kissing, it only needs to be for 'behind closed doors' if it's a homosexual. Thankfully, you are in the minority. Enjoy that.

One other thing, trolling a Big Brother forum at 2:45am at your age with faux outrage over some gif in some strangers signature says more about you than it does me. I'd talk to someone about your issues if I were you you're too full of hatred, it's sad...let it go mate, the gays aren't coming to bum you

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by BuddyTheElf

Hm, suddenly pretending it's too late to answer a question that you've now avoided on numerous occasions is quite amusing. But then you don't need to answer it do you because your hypocrisy is plain for everyone to see. You wouldn't be complaining if it were a straight couple kissing, it only needs to be for 'behind closed doors' if it's a homosexual. Thankfully, you are in the minority. Enjoy that.

One other thing, trolling a Big Brother forum at 2:45am at your age with faux outrage over some gif in some strangers signature says more about you than it does me. I'd talk to someone about your issues if I were you you're too full of hatred, it's sad...let it go mate, the gays aren't coming to bum you

Jack, if you had been following my posts you will know I am suffering from Cancer and am undergoing chemo. The medication I am on precludes me from getting my full quota of sleep so I doze when I can. Don't worry you were not to know but at the moment I am watching New Orleans saints on Ch4. To answer your question, no I wouldn't be concerned if it was a man and a woman, yes I find 2 women kissing repulsive. Hopefully that will give you some ammo to come up with some politically correct retort once again borne out of your rather simple and vitriolic views against straights.

Jack, your mind chose you to be gay, don't blame the world son. My lad knew he was gay at 17 when his sexual preferences drove his feelings but the last thing he would do would be to tell the world that his dads sexual preference or views were wrong or archaic. Do you tell your dad he is in the wrong just because he made you. In fact you know something, please don't answer that, the loss of respect for your own dad would crush your rep on here.

[Jack_]

Well firstly I thought you had overcome the cancer, so I'm sorry to hear otherwise. But you are still trolling, so...

I appreciate the answer at last but I'm afraid it's only highlighted your hypocrisy. If you have no problem witnessing public displays of affection between members of opposite sexes but do if it's a homosexual couple, you have a problem.

But you still are yet to provide me of some evidence of me having 'vitriolic views' against straights or saying that sexual preference is 'wrong'. You're making this sh*t up and it's beginning to annoy me. I don't care if anyone is straight, I don't care if anyone is bi, I don't care if anyone is gay. I don't care if anyone is transgender. Or black, or Christian. The list goes on. I don't ****ing care, because it bares no relevance to my life, and it doesn't yours either. If you do care, you need to reassess your priorities, no matter who you are.

Just for the record, I'm not gay. I prefer girls actually, but that's beside the point.

Your reputation was crushed the minute you posted the first of your inflammatory threads/comments, so I'm not too worried mate.

[sampvt]

Girls are truly wonderfull things. However real women don't squeak and stink of plastic matey. I guess once you find a real one, we will see the post count drop and for what its worth, I think most people realise that you argue the gay right thing just because you can and because nobody else wants to play with you. Good night and for what its worth, I don't buy the not being gay thing.

[Jack_]

I actually wrote the word women, just changed to girls. But you want to get into petty semantics now I see

Yes of course you know all about me and my sexual preferences I really would suggest not trolling a Big Brother forum if I were you, don't you think at your age and with the circumstances you're in you have more important things to be doing? That is of course unless you're lying...maybe you are. Would be a bit sick, but it's happened before on here

Oh, I'd also suggest maybe paying attention a bit more in future, I've explained the full extent of my sexuality before so maybe you should go do some reading before you assume things you know nothing about just because you're attempting to patronise me? You look very foolish and for someone of your age it's quite embarrassing

[Shaun]

... is this much thought really being put into I'm a Celebrity... ?

[reece(:]

Jack has well and truly clocked sampvt a million times over

[Black Dagger]

Blimey, I only came in to say David was robbed.

[michael21]

just been reading thought the last 5 or 6 pages and


Jack 20 sampvt 0

i declare Jack the winner

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Weavelehem

Jack has well and truly clocked sampvt a million times over

No you are wrong, he just has the dumed down support of the gay posters. Hes not really all that clever to say hes been posting on here since he was 13 and seems to live on his laptop. I actually have a life all be it in its decline but I love who I am and love being straight. Jack just thinks he needs to protect all things that might gain him friends without really having any firm views on who or what he is. I find lesbian porn offensive on here and see no need for it, that opened this can of worms but Jack just latched onto it because he could and was probably bored.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by unwrapme

just been reading thought the last 5 or 6 pages and


Jack 20 sampvt 0

i declare Jack the winner

Well there is no surprise after I wiped your arse days ago. Once again the dumed down and desperate support of the gay brigade that want to go on the straight bashing adventure. Sorry Michael but in my day, gays were classed as wrong, now a days, you lot class us as weird. I am fine with being straight but you still need to work on being gay and accept straights as normal.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Well there is no surprise after I wiped your arse days ago. Once again the dumed down and desperate support of the gay brigade that want to go on the straight bashing adventure. Sorry Michael but in my day, gays were classed as wrong, now a days, you lot class us as weird. I am fine with being straight but you still need to work on being gay and accept straights as normal.

shut it of shut if of turn his music off

1. i have no problem with gay people male or female

but did i read that right did you just call me gay

[sampvt]

I cant believe there are so many people on here that spend hours poking and insulting people just so they can get them infracted. I am easier to wind up than a mickey mouse watch and get nailed sometimes but some fools are so blatant. People pretend to be gay and girls pretending to be men. Why cant everyone post their own picture, fill in their public profile truthfully and speak the truth. Its all so very tiring reading through loads of posts to find out that the middle aged woman you thought you knew turns out to be 15 yr old kid with homosexual tendencies that lies about his age..

[michael21]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I cant believe there are so many people on here that spend hours poking and insulting people just so they can get them infracted. I am easier to wind up than a mickey mouse watch and get nailed sometimes but some fools are so blatant. People pretend to be gay and girls pretending to be men. Why cant everyone post their own picture, fill in their public profile truthfully and speak the truth. Its all so very tiring reading through loads of posts to find out that the middle aged woman you thought you knew turns out to be 15 yr old kid with homosexual tendencies that lies about his age..

can you stay on topic please

[zakman440]

Originally Posted by sampvt

We can always rely on you jack to jump up there and offer us the voice of reason regarding issues that sometimes get clouded in politicl correctness. Between you and the Stupid ho girl, you might reach enough years to buy beer, but in terms of decency, you are confusing others peoples ability or indeed tollerance to view a subject that some of us find disturbing.

I doubt your grandad would agree with your views or probably well in excess of more that 75% of the GBP. However your tenderness in years like your little mate, have only learned you to shove your opinions down others throats and be dammed if they disagree with you. It seems the norm for kids nowadays that should be out climbing trees and eating bugs, to be sitting alone in a bedroom playing johnny no mates for most of the day and barking at the moon when anyone dares to challenge their beliefs.

If you relate back to last year, we had a very similar conversation but that was probably before puberty struck in so i would at least expect you to understand or even agree with the fact that not everyone revels in the art of same sex relationships, in fact some of us older and far wiser punters actually find the subject sickening but thats just us.

You can shout all you want but like the snooker players I am watching at the moment, i prefer the pink to the brown and always will so please try to accept my view as we are both allowed an opinion.

Ermmm, I thought this was an I'm a Celeb thread?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by unwrapme

can you stay on topic please

Once again I was on topic till you TRIED TO drag me into a war of words. Anyway the show is over and I am signing off. Got a life to lead. Grandson to take shopping for chocolate santas and prezzies to buy for the family. Maybe even drop into my fav thai restaurant for a bite and we need more chardonnay. All of this done without the aid of my laptop and in the open air with only my walking stick for support, lol.

In signing off, if you lot want to regard me as the grumpy granddad, that's fine by me as at least that's an identity I can relate to. Half of my protagonists are not even sure who they are themselves, lol.

Check out my profile, all up front, true and open, no corners in my life. Better to be grumpy and honest than bitter and deceptive.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Once again I was on topic till you TRIED TO drag me into a war of words. Anyway the show is over and I am signing off. Got a life to lead. Grandson to take shopping for chocolate santas and prezzies to buy for the family. Maybe even drop into my fav thai restaurant for a bite and we need more chardonnay. All of this done without the aid of my laptop and in the open air with only my walking stick for support, lol.

In signing off, if you lot want to regard me as the grumpy granddad, that's fine by me as at least that's an identity I can relate to. Half of my protagonists are not even sure who they are themselves, lol.

Check out my profile, all up front, true and open, no corners in my life. Better to be grumpy and honest than bitter and deceptive.

i have only ever talk to you about amy who was a camp mate and should of won

[michael21]

I’m A Celebrity’s Amy Willerton and Joey Essex keep romance going in the outside world

http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/09/im-a-c...world-4223346/

[Black Dagger]

Those ****ing heteros, sticking willies into vaginas.

Absolutely revolting.