[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think the issues of race and sexuality are very similar and comparable, you don't choose the colour of your skin and you can't choose your sexuality, both are just simply apart of who you are.

Im going to pull you on one part of what you say ,i agree no one can choose the colour of their skin (if they could I would be the same colour as Diana Ross ) but i do not believe ALL gay people are born gay ,I have several gay friends who have married,had children THEN come out as gay ,they were not born that way, thats not saying EVERY gay person is like them ,but it makes the point not EVERYONE is born guy/straight

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im going to pull you on one part of what you say ,i agree no one can choose the colour of their skin (if they could I would be the same colour as Diana Ross ) but i do not believe ALL gay people are born gay ,I have several guy friends who have married,had children THEN come out as gay ,they were not born that way, thats not saying EVERY gay person is like them ,but it makes the point not EVERYONE is born guy/straight

Some people just take longer to accept and realize their sexuality, that's all.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Some people just take longer to accept and realize their sexuality, that's all.

millions wont accept it without debate and discussion which you want outlawed.? mindless

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by the truth

millions wont accept it without debate and discussion which you want outlawed.? mindless

Where did I say i felt it needed to be 'outlawed'?

I think it's very healthy to debate on subjects like this. I just very strongly disagree with his opinion that being homosexual is like being handicapped.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Where did I say i felt it needed to be 'outlawed'?

I think it's very healthy to debate on subjects like this. I just very strongly disagree with his opinion that being homosexual is like being handicapped.

he didnt say that youre being dishonest

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by the truth

he didnt say that youre being dishonest

According to the video I saw he did. he said that gay people should be fixed like handicapped people who want to be cursed of their ailment.

You've still now showed me where I said the about outlawing anything, so maybe you're the one being dishonest? or twisting what people say to fit your agenda.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Some people just take longer to accept and realize their sexuality, that's all.

I do think sometimes its a choice. Rarely, but sometimes.

Eg. I had a 'friend' (using that term loosely, didnt like her but she was alwas there ) who always slept about with guys, had boyfriends all her life, told everyone she was 'bored' of blokes, got a woman, then after they split 4 months later went back to guys and has never looked twice at a woman since.

Some would say that means shes bi. But I think she just wanted a change/to shock people

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I do think sometimes its a choice. Rarely, but sometimes.

Eg. I had a 'friend' (using that term loosely, didnt like her but she was alwas there ) who always slept about with guys, had boyfriends all her life, told everyone she was 'bored' of blokes, got a woman, then after they split 4 months later went back to guys and has never looked twice at a woman since.

Some would say that means shes bi. But I think she just wanted a change/to shock people

are we allowed to discuss it? evander wasnt?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I do think sometimes its a choice. Rarely, but sometimes.

Eg. I had a 'friend' (using that term loosely, didnt like her but she was alwas there ) who always slept about with guys, had boyfriends all her life, told everyone she was 'bored' of blokes, got a woman, then after they split 4 months later went back to guys and has never looked twice at a woman since.

Some would say that means shes bi. But I think she just wanted a change/to shock people

I know a LOT of people like that ,one example is a girl who was brought up over the road from me ,at 16 was the town bike, if it had a pulse she laid under it ,then at 25 turned gay ,was gay for a few years ,lost track of her until 11th November last year when i was at our local hospital waiting for my Grandaughter to be born ,and she came in the hospital coffee shop I was in ,She asked me what I was doing there, i told her, she said "Oh my daughters in ,shes having my grandson today too"so clearly no longer gay ,she PICKED and she CHOSE

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im going to pull you on one part of what you say ,i agree no one can choose the colour of their skin (if they could I would be the same colour as Diana Ross ) but i do not believe ALL gay people are born gay ,I have several guy friends who have married,had children THEN come out as gay ,they were not born that way, thats not saying EVERY gay person is like them ,but it makes the point not EVERYONE is born guy/straight

Repressing your sexuality doesn't change it. You can't choose to be straight just like you can't choose to be gay.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Repressing your sexuality doesn't change it. You can't choose to be straight just like you can't choose to be gay.

sorry were not allowed to discuss the topic you advocated its banned to discuss the topic so stop discussing it

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I have several gay friends who have married,had children THEN come out as gay ,they were not born that way,

In instances like that those people were born gay but because of the way they were made to feel about how society sees being gay they felt they had to repress it and thought that if they lived a straight lifestyle then it might somehow 'go away' or something.
That's why they usually can't keep living a lie and are so unhappy that they have no choice but to come out in the end.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JTM45

In instances like that those people were born gay but because of the way they were made to feel about how society sees being gay they felt they had to repress it and thought that if they lived a straight lifestyle then it might somehow 'go away' or something.
That's why they usually can't keep living a lie and are so unhappy that they have no choice but to come out in the end.

how do u know for fact thats exactly the same for every single homosexual person on planet earth? you dont. so stop acting like you do.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by the truth

how do u know for fact thats exactly the same for every single homosexual person on planet earth? you dont. so stop acting like you do.

Where did i say that ? Oh no......i didn't!!!

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Where did i say that ? Oh no......i didn't!!!

you pretty much did....everyone is different including gay people

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

you pretty much did....everyone is different including gay people

"Pretty much" is not DID

[the truth]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

"Pretty much" is not DID

not everything in life has to be 100% literal...things cna be inferred too....the poster generalised massively and there was no clause in the statement that allowed for any other opinion for the masses.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by JTM45

In instances like that those people were born gay but because of the way they were made to feel about how society sees being gay they felt they had to repress it and thought that if they lived a straight lifestyle then it might somehow 'go away' or something.
That's why they usually can't keep living a lie and are so unhappy that they have no choice but to come out in the end.

Really insightful comment JTM45, very well said. I agree with every word of that too.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by JTM45

In instances like that those people were born gay but because of the way they were made to feel about how society sees being gay they felt they had to repress it and thought that if they lived a straight lifestyle then it might somehow 'go away' or something.
That's why they usually can't keep living a lie and are so unhappy that they have no choice but to come out in the end.

How do you know they were born gay ?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

How do you know they were born gay ?

Did you choose your sexuality?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Did you choose your sexuality?

Of course I did ,I chose to marry a man

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Of course I did ,I chose to marry a man

Choosing to marry a man isn't the same as choosing to be turned on by men.

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You could. You could make the choice now if you wanted to..easy enough done

Again, making a conscious decision and saying "I'm straight" is entirely different from choosing what gives you an erection or turns you on.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Choosing to marry a man isn't the same as choosing to be turned on by men.



Again, making a conscious decision and saying "I'm straight" is entirely different from choosing what gives you an erection or turns you on.

If he didnt turn me on I would have married his sister ,so thats a stupid thing to say, Ive said before and I will say again ,SOME people are born gay ,SOME are not

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Did you choose your sexuality?

You could. You could make the choice now if you wanted to..easy enough done

I do not for one minute believe that the majority of gay people choose to be. But I do think these days some people chose to be gay as its seen to be the 'in' thing. Kinda like how 5 years ago everyone was bi, then when it wasnt trendy anymore, you never heard of bi people anymore

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You could. You could make the choice now if you wanted to..easy enough done

I do not for one minute believe that the majority of gay people choose to be. But I do think these days some people chose to be gay as its seen to be the 'in' thing. Kinda like how 5 years ago everyone was bi.

whoever does stuff like that in order to be cool or whatever is clearly not actually gay so it doesn't speak for the gay community and it's not relevant to anything