[the truth]

Originally Posted by Apple202

"mindless drivel" is what i tend to think when i have the displeasure of reading your posts, to tell you the truth

thats because you want all opposing views or opinions that make you question anything banned by the radical liberals

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

How do you know they were born gay ?

Did you choose your sexuality?

[Jemal]

You can easily just get out of bed one morning and decide to try your luck with boys. Its not hard. That obviously comes under 'making a choice' like evander tried to say.
Im not defending him but in bits he was talking abit of sense.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

Progression in YOUR opinion...but you and others here want it banned to discuss the matter...so your ebeing hypicritical even by discussing it

I've not even stated my opinion on whether or not Evander was entitled to that opinion or not so I'd advise you actually try READING my posts before you jump to conclusions.

All I've simply said is that Sexuality is not a choice and it's very comparable to issues of race, which it is.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Did you choose your sexuality?

Of course I did ,I chose to marry a man

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Did you choose your sexuality?

You could. You could make the choice now if you wanted to..easy enough done

I do not for one minute believe that the majority of gay people choose to be. But I do think these days some people chose to be gay as its seen to be the 'in' thing. Kinda like how 5 years ago everyone was bi, then when it wasnt trendy anymore, you never heard of bi people anymore

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Apple202

"mindless drivel" is what i tend to think when i have the displeasure of reading your posts, to tell you the truth

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by the truth

I know people who were once in somosexual relationships now with with the opposite sex. Ive no idea if they chose to change their sexual desires nor am I interested to ask. its not my business. but to hear some posters here clainm to know the exact choices of all homosexuals on the planet is the most mindless stereotyped drivel Ive ever heard in my life

I was just stating what i know from my experience and the knowledge i've personally absorbed in my lifetime. I never said "this is how it is in every single case for every single person!".
Without writing a whole page on the subject people have to generalize to a certain extent.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jemal

You can easily just get out of bed one morning and decide to try your luck with boys. Its not hard. That obviously comes under 'making a choice' like evander tried to say.
Im not defending him but in bits he was talking abit of sense.

That's what we call living a lie, being in denial, etc etc

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I've not even stated my opinion on whether or not Evander was entitled to that opinion or not so I'd advise you actually try READING my posts before you jump to conclusions.

All I've simply said is that Sexuality is not a choice and it's very comparable to issues of race, which it is.

no its not comparable at all.....also to say its not a choice? who are you speaking for? yourself ? or every gay person on the planet? why are you allowed to express a view and evander isnt?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

EVERY gay person? lol spoken to all the 100s of millions have you? pretty arrogant to think your opinion counts exactly the same for every single gay person on the planet...and you accuse others of stereotyping peple? LOL
What a hypocrite

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I was just stating what i know from my experience and the knowledge i've personally absorbed in my lifetime. I never said "this is how it is in every single case for every single person!".
Without writing a whole page on the subject people have to generalize to a certain extent.

so youre allowed to generalize and offer an opinion, but evander isnt? fair?

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You could. You could make the choice now if you wanted to..easy enough done

I do not for one minute believe that the majority of gay people choose to be. But I do think these days some people chose to be gay as its seen to be the 'in' thing. Kinda like how 5 years ago everyone was bi.

whoever does stuff like that in order to be cool or whatever is clearly not actually gay so it doesn't speak for the gay community and it's not relevant to anything

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Salman!

whoever does stuff like that in order to be cool or whatever is clearly not actually gay so it doesn't speak for the gay community and it's not relevant

The gay community does have differing opinions though. We are not all one mind, one voice.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Salman!

whoever does stuff like that in order to be cool or whatever is clearly not actually gay and so it doesn't speak for the gay community and it's not relevant

Never said it spoke for the gay community..even said in the same post that the huge majority of gay people are born gay... But some people DO make the choice.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You could. You could make the choice now if you wanted to..easy enough done

I do not for one minute believe that the majority of gay people choose to be. But I do think these days some people chose to be gay as its seen to be the 'in' thing. Kinda like how 5 years ago everyone was bi, then when it wasnt trendy anymore, you never heard of bi people anymore

Very true

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Salman!

whoever does stuff like that in order to be cool or whatever is clearly not actually gay so it doesn't speak for the gay community and it's not relevant

who are you to say who speaks for the gay community? who are you to judge other peoples choices and behaviour? youre being as judgemental as those who criticize gay people now. ps why are you allowed an opinion on this matter and evander isnt?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

The gay community does have differing opinions though. We are not all one mind, one voice.

Seems you are meant to be though. Come on Benjamin, join the ranks fgs

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Of course I did ,I chose to marry a man

Choosing to marry a man isn't the same as choosing to be turned on by men.

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You could. You could make the choice now if you wanted to..easy enough done

Again, making a conscious decision and saying "I'm straight" is entirely different from choosing what gives you an erection or turns you on.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

That's what we call living a lie, being in denial, etc etc

But mate, your still choosing..
Lie or no lie you are choosing.

Let me use you as an example, dont take offence to this but just a harmless example.
You could be straight right now because you choose not to be gay.
True or false?
Either way you choose your sexuality because if you want to be gay you can bloody be gay? If you choose not to be gay, you choose to go for girls and now especially if you like both sex's you CHOOSE to be bloody bisexual.

What people are getting mixed up is the feelings. You dont choose your feelings of course but you choose your sexuality, lie or not, that is the truth.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You could. You could make the choice now if you wanted to..easy enough done

I do not for one minute believe that the majority of gay people choose to be. But I do think these days some people chose to be gay as its seen to be the 'in' thing. Kinda like how 5 years ago everyone was bi, then when it wasnt trendy anymore, you never heard of bi people anymore

I disagree, sure you could sleep with someone of the same sex just like you could sleep with someone of the opposite sex who isn't attractive to you. Sex is Sex but you can't change your sexuality.

Simply saying that you're straight/gay/bi is different to actually being any of those things.

[qwerty42]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Who says that it is human nature to be attracted to opposite sex? That's just the kind of ignorant bull**** you've been brainwashed with since you were born.

How are we created? Male mates with female. How is that ignorant?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Seems you are meant to be though. Come on Benjamin, join the ranks fgs

This is what annoys me. A lot of younger gays (sorry to generalise here) seem to think that we should all think the same and if we don't then we must be ignorant and/or support homophobia.

[Stevep]

Evander got warned for having an opinion on his beliefs but if the shoe was on the other foot and an individual claimed homosexuality was 'normal' should that individual in turn be warned? If not why not when that individual could possibly have 'offended' people of which are religious?

The world has gone PC mad, Evander was neither malicious or nasty, it was quite plainly an opinion that he had and shared. Whether he is right or wrong does not come into the discussion.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by the truth

so youre allowed to generalize and offer an opinion, but evander isnt? fair?

When did i say Evander isn't ?
I said in my first post on the subject that he IS entitled to his opinion but that i disagree strongly with it.
So you're saying that nobody is allowed to comment on anything unless they're prepared to write a complete thesis on the subject are you ? Like you do you mean........