[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Repressing your sexuality doesn't change it. You can't choose to be straight just like you can't choose to be gay.

sorry were not allowed to discuss the topic you advocated its banned to discuss the topic so stop discussing it

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

an opinion that's proven wrong and deserves to be criticised

By YOU ?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Where did I say i felt it needed to be 'outlawed'?

I think it's very healthy to debate on subjects like this. I just very strongly disagree with his opinion that being homosexual is like being handicapped.

he didnt say that youre being dishonest

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I do think sometimes its a choice. Rarely, but sometimes.

Eg. I had a 'friend' (using that term loosely, didnt like her but she was alwas there ) who always slept about with guys, had boyfriends all her life, told everyone she was 'bored' of blokes, got a woman, then after they split 4 months later went back to guys and has never looked twice at a woman since.

Some would say that means shes bi. But I think she just wanted a change/to shock people

are we allowed to discuss it? evander wasnt?

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I have several gay friends who have married,had children THEN come out as gay ,they were not born that way,

In instances like that those people were born gay but because of the way they were made to feel about how society sees being gay they felt they had to repress it and thought that if they lived a straight lifestyle then it might somehow 'go away' or something.
That's why they usually can't keep living a lie and are so unhappy that they have no choice but to come out in the end.

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I have to say this convo between Luisa and Evander has probably done more for CBB than anything else in recent years.

so true

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JTM45

In instances like that those people were born gay but because of the way they were made to feel about how society sees being gay they felt they had to repress it and thought that if they lived a straight lifestyle then it might somehow 'go away' or something.
That's why they usually can't keep living a lie and are so unhappy that they have no choice but to come out in the end.

how do u know for fact thats exactly the same for every single homosexual person on planet earth? you dont. so stop acting like you do.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

its all apples and oranges....but youre totally contardicting yourself....all 3 are seperate subjects with a whole bunch of seperate issues. yoru moral relativism here is dangerous nonsense. you and others get offended when he discusses disability and homosexuality issues in the same sentence , but its fine for you to mention and compare racism and homophobia and the sufferings of black americans? total complete and utter double standards on yoru part. this underlines why its wrong for us to follow a totalitarian path of endless laws banning all form of discussion.

How is it not comparable? The last generation's social issues pretty much revolved around the rights of black people and the social issues of this generation revolves around Gay Rights. It's simply the progression of the times.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Seanbon

If he has been brought up in a Religion that takes the Bible literally,despite the fact that he has travelled the world,then these views will be ingrained in him,not his fault,imo! That he would become enlightened after a few days in the UK is very unlikely?!? Also he's been slapped around the head all his life,so I'm guessing he might have some sort of brain damage? Not an excuse for his remarks,but he's probably easily led by his Pastor!?!

you make a good point.

[Jemal]

*grabs popcorn*

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by JTM45

In instances like that those people were born gay but because of the way they were made to feel about how society sees being gay they felt they had to repress it and thought that if they lived a straight lifestyle then it might somehow 'go away' or something.
That's why they usually can't keep living a lie and are so unhappy that they have no choice but to come out in the end.

Really insightful comment JTM45, very well said. I agree with every word of that too.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

By YOU ?

By every gay person in the world, who KNOWS it isn't a choice. Something a straight person couldn't know

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

How is it not comparable? The last generation's social issues pretty much revolved around the rights of black people and the social issues of this generation revolves around Gay Rights. It's simply the progression of the times.

Progression in YOUR opinion...but you and others here want it banned to discuss the matter...so your ebeing hypicritical even by discussing it

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by the truth

how do u know for fact thats exactly the same for every single homosexual person on planet earth? you dont. so stop acting like you do.

Where did i say that ? Oh no......i didn't!!!

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

By every gay person in the world, who KNOWS it isn't a choice. Something a straight person couldn't know

EVERY gay person? lol spoken to all the 100s of millions have you? pretty arrogant to think your opinion counts exactly the same for every single gay person on the planet...and you accuse others of stereotyping peple? LOL
What a hypocrite

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I do think sometimes its a choice. Rarely, but sometimes.

Eg. I had a 'friend' (using that term loosely, didnt like her but she was alwas there ) who always slept about with guys, had boyfriends all her life, told everyone she was 'bored' of blokes, got a woman, then after they split 4 months later went back to guys and has never looked twice at a woman since.

Some would say that means shes bi. But I think she just wanted a change/to shock people

I know a LOT of people like that ,one example is a girl who was brought up over the road from me ,at 16 was the town bike, if it had a pulse she laid under it ,then at 25 turned gay ,was gay for a few years ,lost track of her until 11th November last year when i was at our local hospital waiting for my Grandaughter to be born ,and she came in the hospital coffee shop I was in ,She asked me what I was doing there, i told her, she said "Oh my daughters in ,shes having my grandson today too"so clearly no longer gay ,she PICKED and she CHOSE

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Where did i say that ? Oh no......i didn't!!!

you pretty much did....everyone is different including gay people

[Jemal]

But tbh. In defence of evander.
I could just wake up tommorow and just decide to start flirting with boys..(i would never, just example) but in that case he does have a point that sometimes you can choose to be gay or not.

Ollie is a great example imo, he likes boys but chooses to have more girlfriends hence why he has never slept with a boy lol.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by the truth

he didnt say that youre being dishonest

According to the video I saw he did. he said that gay people should be fixed like handicapped people who want to be cursed of their ailment.

You've still now showed me where I said the about outlawing anything, so maybe you're the one being dishonest? or twisting what people say to fit your agenda.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

you pretty much did....everyone is different including gay people

"Pretty much" is not DID

[the truth]

I know people who were once in somosexual relationships now with with the opposite sex. Ive no idea if they chose to change their sexual desires nor am I interested to ask. its not my business. but to hear some posters here clainm to know the exact choices of all homosexuals on the planet is the most mindless stereotyped drivel Ive ever heard in my life

[Apple202]

"mindless drivel" is what i tend to think when i have the displeasure of reading your posts, to tell you the truth

[the truth]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

"Pretty much" is not DID

not everything in life has to be 100% literal...things cna be inferred too....the poster generalised massively and there was no clause in the statement that allowed for any other opinion for the masses.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Did you choose to be straight chuff? Did you actively make the choice at 13 or so & think 'I'll be straight'

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by JTM45

In instances like that those people were born gay but because of the way they were made to feel about how society sees being gay they felt they had to repress it and thought that if they lived a straight lifestyle then it might somehow 'go away' or something.
That's why they usually can't keep living a lie and are so unhappy that they have no choice but to come out in the end.

How do you know they were born gay ?