[Redway]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

How can anyone deny he isn't a sexist little bigot.

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[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Jake.

In the diary room you mean? Because she wasn't even safe in there lol

No, in the kitchen earlier that evening, he didn't need to do much to overhear her slagging him off to all comers.

[Jake.]

Deana actually chucked water in the direction of a housemate (Arron I think?) in BB13 and wasn't warned, so I don't see the problem. Let's have no warnings for stuff like that because it fizzles out the interesting stuff lol.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Videostar

No, in the kitchen earlier that evening, he didn't need to do much to overhear her slagging him off to all comers.

Yeah, it was only what she had already called him tbf, I suppose where I'm not a woman I can't appreciate her view as much but being told that you will never be equal to a man would probably anger you.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Deana actually chucked water in the direction of a housemate (Arron I think?) in BB13 and wasn't warned, so I don't see the problem. Let's have no warnings for stuff like that because it fizzles out the interesting stuff lol.

The same could be said for what Evander said (about gays being "fixed") should he get a warning for that? should that HM (Emily) I think her name was, get thrown out for quoting a rap song where the N word was used? where does it stop...im not sure.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Yeah, it was only what she had already called him tbf, I suppose where I'm not a woman I can't appreciate her view as much but being told that you will never be equal to a man would probably anger you.

It was Evander who said that, but im not sure he meant that Women aren't equal to men in general, just that men and women aren't equal in everything in life...people in life male/male , /male/female, female/female aren't always equal in certain situations.

Oh this is getting deep now.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So? Neil Ruddock got a warning for aggressive posturing to spiedi, she did intimate throwing the water?

Going to throw a plastic cup over someone is not the same as threatening someone then jumping over the table towards them in aggression.

Seriously since last summer the Daley and Hazel situation all people do now is spout out stuff about aggression when they really don't know when that term applies to something.

Neil Rudock was also INTIMIDATING that's why he got the warning, then again little Dappy was probably intimidated by that big cup of water.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Videostar

It was Evander who said that, but im not sure he meant that Women aren't equal to men in general, just that men and women aren't equal in everything in life...people in life male/male , /male/female, female/female aren't always equal in certain situations.

Oh this is getting deep now.

I know, she was referring to them both in the kitchen though, not just Dappy. I get what you mean but it does boil down to sexism, and as women I'm not suprised that they didn't take to the initial comments well, I wouldn't

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Redway

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[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Videostar

The same could be said for what Evander said (about gays being "fixed") should he get a warning for that? should that HM (Emily) I think her name was, get thrown out for quoting a rap song where the N word was used? where does it stop...im not sure.

That was pretty bad to be fair lol.

I don't believe in warnings though just let it roll.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I know, she was referring to them both in the kitchen though, not just Dappy. I get what you mean but it does boil down to sexism, and as women I'm not suprised that they didn't take to the initial comments well, I wouldn't

But Jasmine let it go and moved on, Luisa just wanted to carry it on.

Having said that, Evander let it go too while Nappy didn't.

Two very opinionated people who aren't very bright wouldn't let the thing drop.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

That was pretty bad to be fair lol.

I don't believe in warnings though just let it roll.

Totally agree on both points.

[Jake.]

It all boils down to a clash of personalities, Luisa and Dappy are probably a bit more alike than what they like to believe lol

[Ammi]

..I think that although they were sexist comments, they were just having a conversation about them, until Luisa started to talk about Dappy and stir it all up so that it became an argument...

[Jords]

Dont be ridiculous Dappy was following Luisa all over the place!

Anyhow, I thought it was really good on both behalves that they were able to make up on the same day. Entertaining argument.

[Northern Monkey]

Lets be real!It all boils down to Luissa wanting her own story line instead of unsuccessfully piggy backing the love triangle like she was doing before.She turned a conversation into a shouting match in the first place and then deliberately flared it all back up in the kitchen when it was done with,Then she cowers off saying she does'nt want to argue to try and make Nappy look bad.She's a desperate fame ***** and anyone with half a brain can see straight through it #realtalk

[wendywillow]

and dappy just couldn't take his (ever changing) grades being demeaned

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Yep,She started going on about "the chauvanists"(sorry for the spelling on that) in the house deliberately so Dappy would hear it.Then has the cheek to say "leave me alone now" when it got too much for her.If she can't take it back she should've kept her mouth shut instead of flaring it back up again.

Absolutely spot on and then to bring his mother into it. She thinks she is a cut above Dappy and a few of the others. She is just a jumped up nobody.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

Absolutely spot on and then to bring his mother into it. She thinks she is a cut above Dappy and a few of the others. She is just a jumped up nobody.

And he thinks he is a cut above women, sit well with you does it, it certainly doesn't with me. He is a jumped up rapper with hypocritcal bigoted views about women, nothing more.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zee

Yep. Dappy was definitely following her around looking to finish the argument off with her and she kept taking it a step further and then attempting to wash her hands of it. She should have just calmly either apologised or explained herself when he was pressing her for why she brought his mum or his IQ into it instead of moaning about how he was harassing her. No self awareness - Dappy just wanted closure on it. But ignoring the argument; Dappy was in the wrong and I don't think Luisa could let that go, which is why she didn't deal with the conflict well.

Yeah, I'd empathize with her alot on this one because it's a bit of a pet peeve for me, the whole attitude of generalizing on gender and sexism/double standards. I would have been livid as well

[Z]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, I'd empathize with her alot on this one because it's a bit of a pet peeve for me, the whole attitude of generalizing on gender and sexism/double standards. I would have been livid as well

Yeah I think she was enraged by his views, he was enraged by the fact she wouldn't answer his questions, she was refusing to answer them because she thought he was an idiot and then started belittling his intelligence, he got angrier because of that, she then started bringing his mum into it so he brought her daughter into it... It just escalated because they're both clearly people who aren't used to being told that they are wrong. I think that comes across with Luisa's response to Lionel later on in the evening; and Dappy's clearly never been challenged on his views before either.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zee

Yeah I think she was enraged by his views, he was enraged by the fact she wouldn't answer his questions, she was refusing to answer them because she thought he was an idiot and then started belittling his intelligence, he got angrier because of that, she then started bringing his mum into it so he brought her daughter into it... It just escalated because they're both clearly people who aren't used to being told that they are wrong. I think that comes across with Luisa's response to Lionel later on in the evening; and Dappy's clearly never been challenged on his views before either.

How he's not been challenged on such complete and utter sexism though is beyond me, i guess he surrounds himself with like minded idiots