[Lee.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

The evidence shows her body had been refridgerated ,it shows up in the fluids they found in the boot

I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that. Where on earth would you refrigerate your daughters body for weeks in a foreign country swarming with international media, police, forensics and sniffer dogs??

[Jezzy]

Catweazle, would you go off and leave your children alone? Just asking. And if you wouldn't, why not?

[CaudleHalbard]

Apparently, according to neighbours, the car boot was left open for several days.

The McCanns's explanation: it was to get rid of the smell of sea bass which they had bought.

One of those "Yeah, right!" things? You decide!

[Marsh.]

Isn't this just a repeat of the last thread? Might as well bump that one up, some very good points/arguments were made in it.

[Jezzy]

Must have been a hella lot of seabass.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Isn't this just a repeat of the last thread? Might as well bump that one up, some very good points/arguments were made in it.

Maybe they should be merged?

[Z]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that. Where on earth would you refrigerate your daughters body for weeks in a foreign country swarming with international media, police, forensics and sniffer dogs??

Yeah I don't know about that either; but then again, Kate McCann's job description was to deal with corpses so I'd imagine she has a better knowledge than most about where bodies are hidden, how they decompose and that whole macabre field of medicine - again, doesn't prove anything at all, but taking into account their professions and their high level of intelligence, they're far more likely to get away with temporarily hiding a body than others who may have been in a similar situation: a combination of luck and good planning and then later moving the body or getting someone to move the body aren't out of the realms of possibility... but it's all a bit far fetched either way.

I think that's the problem with this case. Absolutely nothing makes sense. They claim someone must have come in or out of the window - no signs of a disturbance. People claim they killed her and got rid of the body - how and where? People claim they moved the body later - how, they were internationally famous by this point, how are they going to be alone long enough to get rid of a body without the police or the media knowing about it? If somebody kidnapped Madeleine, how did nobody see them? It's maddening... I hope that we get some kind of conclusion in my lifetime, it's probably the most high profile case of the last ten years. I wonder if it'll turn out to be a Natasha Kampusch or Elisabeth Fritzl sort of case or if she was just murdered and they've not yet found the body? Perhaps somebody did take her but they just murdered her?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Apparently, according to neighbours, the car boot was left open for several days.

The McCanns's explanation: it was to get rid of the smell of sea bass which they had bought.

One of those "Yeah, right!" things? You decide!

But what's more believable? That they had bought fresh fish whilst on holiday at a seaside resort and didn't like the smell it had left in their hired car? Or that they had killed their child, acted normal, refrigerated her then placed her in a tennis bag and drove over the Spanish border to dispose if her body (so well that it's never ever been found) all under the noses of the world media?

Originally Posted by Lee.

But what's more believable? That they had bought fresh fish whilst on holiday at a seaside resort and didn't like the smell it had left in their hired car? Or that they had killed their child, acted normal, refrigerated her then placed her in a tennis bag and drove over the Spanish border to dispose if her body (so well that it's never ever been found) all under the noses of the world media?

Murder it is then!

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

I think that's the problem with this case. Absolutely nothing makes sense. They claim someone must have come in or out of the window - no signs of a disturbance. (

Nothing does make sense. Even the eyewitness accounts off the Tapas folk don't gel.

In any murder enquiry, family are generally the first suspects.

But nothing....nothing from the family and friends makes any sense or has any continuity whatsoever. To me this is an alert.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Isn't this just a repeat of the last thread? Might as well bump that one up, some very good points/arguments were made in it.

I agree.......we seem to be going round and round in circles with this story, this thread as you say is just another re-hash of all the points raised in the last Thread.

Time maybe for everyone to move on and perhaps use these police resources to investigate some of the other thousands of missing children cases which are currently unsolved.

The McCanns have had more than enough of their share of the limelight with this case.

Time to move on.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

But what's more believable? That they had bought fresh fish whilst on holiday at a seaside resort and didn't like the smell it had left in their hired car? Or that they had killed their child, acted normal, refrigerated her then placed her in a tennis bag and drove over the Spanish border to dispose if her body (so well that it's never ever been found) all under the noses of the world media?

I don't think most people would say they had KILLED their child. Just that they ARE aware of what transpired, and how it would affect them.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

But what's more believable? That they had bought fresh fish whilst on holiday at a seaside resort and didn't like the smell it had left in their hired car? Or that they had killed their child, acted normal, refrigerated her then placed her in a tennis bag and drove over the Spanish border to dispose if her body (so well that it's never ever been found) all under the noses of the world media?

Eddie,Keela are 2 of the most trusted police dogs working at that time .,by both Uk and FBI, They had a 100% record and did until their retirement apart from the McCann case ? too stupid for words ,Cadaver and blood dogs do NOT mix up the scent of seabass and a dead body or blood

[Vicky.]

I honestly wish this case would just disappear. Its absolutely ridiculous the amount of time, money and coverage this has had compared to other missing child cases. Nothing in it makes sense, from ANY angle, hence the endless 'conspiracy' stuff. The official story makes no sense yet people are expected to believe it and are ridiculed for pointing out the massive amounts of holes. From the 'other' view, theres not much that makes sense either when you tie it all together. Noone will ever find out what happened that day..its been too long, the amount of disinformation and such out there (from both sides) is ridiculous, and attempting to pin it on burglars is just an insult to peoples intelligence IMO. Burglars who leave all valuables but take a child instead, and then hang around the resort making multiple phonecalls instead of getting out of there? Yeah..ok

Originally Posted by Jezzy

I don't think most people would say they had KILLED their child. Just that they ARE aware of what transpired, and how it would affect them.

That's the problem - no one is really saying anything other than "that's suspicious/that doesn't sit right/something's off".

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I agree.......we seem to be going round and round in circles with this story, this thread as you say is just another re-hash of all the points raised in the last Thread.

Time maybe for everyone to move on and perhaps use these police resources to investigate some of the other thousands of missing children cases which are currently unsolved.

The McCanns have had more than enough of their share of the limelight with this case.

Time to move on.

This review (whitewash) being done by Redwood ( he who tried to plant jill Dandos death on an innocent man to get a result in the case) will have cost the taxpayer Ł10m by the time its done, and for what ? nothing ,this is and always will be a Portuguese case,while children queue up in food bank queues

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I honestly wish this case would just disappear. Its absolutely ridiculous the amount of time, money and coverage this has had compared to other missing child cases. Nothing in it makes sense, from ANY angle, hence the endless 'conspiracy' stuff. The official story makes no sense yet people are expected to believe it and are ridiculed for pointing out the massive amounts of holes. From the 'other' view, theres not much that makes sense either when you tie it all together. Noone will ever find out what happened that day..its been too long, the amount of disinformation and such out there (from both sides) is ridiculous, and attempting to pin it on burglars is just an insult to peoples intelligence IMO. Burglars who leave all valuables but take a child instead, and then hang around the resort making multiple phonecalls instead of getting out of there? Yeah..ok

great post

[CaudleHalbard]

I sincerely hope I am wrong to have any suspicion about the McCanns, and that Madeleine is alive and being well-cared for somewhere. I would be absolutely delighted.

But I fear the police have now started another wild goose chase - after burglars this time.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I sincerely hope I am wrong to have any suspicion about the McCanns, and that Madeleine is alive and being well-cared for somewhere. I would be absolutely delighted.

But I fear the police have now started another wild goose chase - after burglars this time.

The headlines that have been in this weeks Mirror have not come from police, its come from McCanns spokesman Clarence Mitchell, all put out there as smokescreen for Lisbon case

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Eddie,Keela are 2 of the most trusted police dogs working at that time .,by both Uk and FBI, They had a 100% record and did until their retirement apart from the McCann case ? too stupid for words ,Cadaver and blood dogs do NOT mix up the scent of seabass and a dead body or blood

Eddie's detection of human remains at the Jersey Children's Home investigation turned out to be a piece of old coconut shell. He did not have a 100% record.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Eddie's detection of human remains at the Jersey Children's Home investigation turned out to be a piece of old coconut shell. He did not have a 100% record.

Lee with all due respect, you are believing the red tops

Originally Posted by Lee.

Eddie's detection of human remains at the Jersey Children's Home investigation turned out to be a piece of old coconut shell. He did not have a 100% record.

As was made clear in the last thread, and ignored. That 100% nonsense came from the owner, and wasn't backed up with case names/files or proof.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I sincerely hope I am wrong to have any suspicion about the McCanns, and that Madeleine is alive and being well-cared for somewhere. I would be absolutely delighted.

But I fear the police have now started another wild goose chase - after burglars this time.

Wouldn't it be lovely, CH?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Lee with all due respect, you are believing the red tops

So wait a sec.. I've read all the police files you've posted here and endured that daft book Amaral wrote, but because I have formed my own opinions which don't match yours, I am being duped by the tabloids (which I never read)?

[Jezzy]

I also don't believe everyone is ready to point the finger unless there is something not right. Nobody has ever accused Ben Needham's mother of being in any way involved.