[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Videostar

But Jim and Lionel are a part of the group, so if she cooks for the group that includes those two, it's spiteful (and Luisa is showing a lot of that) to single out two people to not provide a meal for....and all because she's got issues with them that she caused.

she is clearly p*ssed off, I can see where she is coming from.

[erinp5]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

The chocolates must have been part of the rule break or they would not even be discussing them, I think the fact remains he wanted them, knew they were not meant to have been eaten but he ate them anyway and then he kicked off over it which is really hypocritical of him.

Luisa has told us repeatedly that she is a strong independent woman ,she could just have said NO.


She was breaking the rules the minute the task started by not handing in her lipstick /eyeliner.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Actually Luisa cooks for everyone everyday & is probably the most selfless

No she doesn't? Linda cooks.

[Josy]

In fact Dappy cooks too.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Josy

So what? when one or two cooks they cook for the entire group so to say you are refusing to cook for anyone you have a problem with is extremely childish and petty IMO.

so is blaming someone for being punished when they them selves asked luisa to get the chocolates!.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by erinp5

Luisa has told us repeatedly that she is a strong independent woman ,she could just have said NO.


She was breaking the rules the minute the task started by not handing in her lipstick /eyeliner.

Yeah I'm sure she could have said no and they all the straw clutchers would have been slating her for being selfish for just getting the champagne for herself and leaving the chocolates that Lionel had asked for.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Whenever I watch BOT's Luisa cooks

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

she is clearly p*ssed off, I can see where she is coming from.

Can you not also see where the others are coming from? the whole group has suffered because of Luisa.

[Lister of Smeg]

Lionel MOTHER ******IN Blair.

[Moosething]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Can you not also see where the others are coming from? the whole group has suffered because of Luisa.

Yeah but lionel needs to shut up

[Amy Jade]

Josy, Luisa does cook a lot. Linda might do too but Luisa has done a lot of the cooking.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Can you not also see where the others are coming from? the whole group has suffered because of Luisa.

I can but its very easy to sit here and judge.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Josy, Luisa does cook a lot. Linda might do too but Luisa has done a lot of the cooking.

I never said otherwise, I was replying to Jack saying Luisa cooks for everyone everyday, she doesn't.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Can you not also see where the others are coming from? the whole group has suffered because of Luisa.

I could see why those who got no benefit from her rule break being angry, but Lionel ASKED her to get him the items and then gets angry over it?

That really makes no sense to me at all.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

The chocolates must have been part of the rule break or they would not even be discussing them, I think the fact remains he wanted them, knew they were not meant to have been eaten but he ate them anyway and then he kicked off over it which is really hypocritical of him.

The conversation I think was turned around by Luisa to include the chocolates. The punishments weren't just for the chocolates... she stole champagne, she broke out of jail and she hung on to beauty products when she'd been told to hand them in. It was a series of rule breaks they were punished for. As usual though, Luisa deflects any kind of criticism and moans and kvetches while accusing other people of the same thing.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I can but its very easy to sit here and judge.

Isn't that what we all do? that's what almost every post on here is, judging what we see in BB.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Josy

I never said otherwise, I was replying to Jack saying Luisa cooks for everyone everyday, she doesn't.

Then how's she selfish?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

I could see why those who got no benefit from her rule break being angry, but Lionel ASKED her to get him the items and then gets angry over it?

That really makes no sense to me at all.

I understand what you are saying about Lionel concerning that specific rule break but she broke a few other rules knowing that the housemates would all suffer, don't you think that's selfish?

[erinp5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpdp1KCQvKo

Youtube video

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Josy

Isn't that what we all do? that's what almost every post on here is, judging what we see in BB.

Not me, I'm commenting with post-modern irony.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Then how's she selfish?

I think she's selfish due to what I posted above also keeping other housemates awake and finding it funny.

I think she's childish and petty refusing to cook for anyone she has a problem with.

I have posted that a few times in this thread.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by erinp5

At the start of the vid you hear Jim say what Luisa did regarding the make up .If you watch the shopping task result BB punished the house for Luisa's rule breaks. I take it that all of this kicked off the argument .

Yeah they have to hand over any make up they neglected to hand over as part of the the shopping task.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Josy

Isn't that what we all do? that's what almost every post on here is, judging what we see in BB.

oh course, but I not going to jump on luisa is the devil band wagon.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Wait...so Lionel told Luisa to get some chocolates for him, which she did. They then got punished for it and now he's kicking off on here for doing what he asked her to do?

Sorry has dementia set in or something?

This was my pretty much my view.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Josy

I understand what you are saying about Lionel concerning that specific rule break but she broke a few other rules knowing that the housemates would all suffer, don't you think that's selfish?

Yeah it was I guess.