[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

So wait a sec.. I've read all the police files you've posted here and endured that daft book Amaral wrote, but because I have formed my own opinions which don't match yours, I am being duped by the tabloids (which I never read)?

Why is Amaral's book daft?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Lee with all due respect, you are believing the red tops

Where is your proof of the 100% statistic?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that. Where on earth would you refrigerate your daughters body for weeks in a foreign country swarming with international media, police, forensics and sniffer dogs??

Gerry apparently dumped the apartment fridge Lee saying it was broke,WHY would he do that?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Gerry apparently dumped the apartment fridge Lee saying it was broke,WHY would he do that?

I don't know.. Maybe it was broken?

I don't think the McCanns are stupid enough to have stored a dead child in an apartment crawling with police and forensic officers though.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Gerry apparently dumped the apartment fridge Lee saying it was broke,WHY would he do that?

Why indeed, why not just call maintenance? If you were in a hotel and the fridge didn't work, would you take it upon yourself to throw it away?

[MTVN]

Source for the fridge story? Only place it ever seems to get mentioned is on anti-McCann forums

There's so much misinformation and rumour spread around the internet with this case it's ridiculous

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Source for the fridge story? Only place it ever seems to get mentioned is on anti-McCann forums

Yet if it didn't happen, surely there would be libel claims?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

Why is Amaral's book daft?

To me the whole thing was circumstantial, very far fetched or grasping at straws..

I didn't get the Freemason thing at all, the photoshopped pic was just stupid, gerry being a paedo was really quite awful, a British government cover up was unbelievable... It just wasn't convincing at all.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

Yet if it didn't happen, surely there would be libel claims?

Well they can't really police every corner of the internet or stop people speculating and discussing, as much as they might like to, they would probably like to shut this thread down if they could lol

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

To me the whole thing was circumstantial, very far fetched or grasping at straws..

I didn't get the Freemason thing at all, the photoshopped pic was just stupid, gerry being a paedo was really quite awful, a British government cover up was unbelievable... It just wasn't convincing at all.

Lee, I absolutely agree with you about the paedo / government cover up. Doesn't mean something doesn't smell. It's just another case played out by the media with complete disregard to anything subjudice...that in itself raises a whole lot of questions. Sometimes all you have is circumstantial.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Gerry apparently dumped the apartment fridge Lee saying it was broke,WHY would he do that?

It was a new fridge that season ,not reported to owner, just dumped and replaced ,as you do

[Samm]

I hope they do find her, but I don't think they will find anything

But I'm hoping they do

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

It was a new fridge that season ,not reported to owner, just dumped and replaced ,as you do

Yes that's what I don't get,it wasn't their fridge so surely you would tell the site owners and they would deal with it,why would you feel the need to replace one

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes that's what I don't get,it wasn't their fridge so surely you would tell the site owners and they would deal with it,why would you feel the need to replace one

Didn't even replace, just got rid. Why?

"Ooh, my daughter is missing. I need to dump this fridge, right now." Just something else that's completely incongrouous.

Really?

[Lee.]

Did the police know he'd dumped the fridge?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Did the police know he'd dumped the fridge?

If a few people on a Big Brother forum know about it, I imagine they did yes.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

If a few people on a Big Brother forum know about it, I imagine they did yes.

Yes, that's what I was thinking? Didn't they go and retrieve the fridge?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Yes, that's what I was thinking? Didn't they go and retrieve the fridge?

Good point.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes that's what I don't get,it wasn't their fridge so surely you would tell the site owners and they would deal with it,why would you feel the need to replace one

You wouldnt ,and think on McCanns claimed they didnt have any credit cards

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

Didn't even replace, just got rid. Why?

"Ooh, my daughter is missing. I need to dump this fridge, right now." Just something else that's completely incongrouous.

Really?

Gerry wrote it in his diary he was calmly writing every day(now whooshed) ,instead of even looking once for his child

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

they need to look again at Gerry and Kate McCann, something stinks and always has done. Burglars my arse.

Thought this at the beginning but if it was them would they keep putting themselves in the public or just let it slowly fade away.

I don't even remember how the world got involved when girls go missing all the time to be honest.

[Z]

My opinion of them always sways... sometimes I think they're suspicious and the only reason they've gotten away with being found out so far is because they're intelligent medical professionals who, considering their jobs, probably know how best to deal with a dead body better than most people and just like Mark Bridger (April Jones case), managed to get rid of the body without anyone ever finding it. Unlike him though, they weren't deranged psychopaths; but rather panicked parents who had time to think about what to do next because no one was going to raise the alarm until they did so they had time to get rid of the body calmly (well, as calmly as you could possibly be if your daughter had died and it was down to your negligence...) - which explains the cold, unemotional media presence because they haven't gone through the emotional shock of her disappearing and fearing the worst; they already know what happened to her and that's why they were straight into the fund raising and setting up all these smoke screens... why would you become media centric and be setting up fundraisers instead of hoping, praying and assuming the police would get her back...

On the other hand, why should they be judged for not acting in the "proper" way? Has anyone here ever had their child go missing and never come back? Who are we to assume they're guilty just because Kate isn't the mother in constant tears and Gerry isn't the stoic-but-fighting-back-tears father comforting her and pleading for her return like we've seen in the past in other missing child cases? Everyone is different and maybe they just felt broken and defeated from the moment it happened because they felt guilty for leaving them and this ended up happening? Even if they don't admit it publicly, they must be absolutely heartbroken and feel full of guilt at what happened - it wouldn't have happened if they'd been there or had taken Madeleine and the babies to dinner; so many things they could and should have done to prevent this from happening, they must find it hard to sleep at night - of course that's going to take its toll on you and affect the way you react to things emotionally; I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them were completely depressed and unable to express the emotions that other parents of missing children have expressed in the past... what could Holly and Jessica's parents have done? What could Ben Needham's family have done? What about April Jones' parents? They can't blame themselves for what happened; the McCanns can and plenty of people have done it for them even if they don't...

[CaudleHalbard]

A friend of mine wrote to Operation Grange and amongst other things suggested that they should get Kate McCann to answer the 48 questions she failed to answer for the Portuguese police. He has received an acknowledgement but as yet no substantive response.

[Vicky.]

I dont mind about the 48 questions particularly, some were quite loaded. Though many of them were perfectly fine..and I dont see why she wouldnt answer those ones.

But I do NOT understand why the parents were never suspects here. Their word that it was an abduction was just taken. Its dodgy as hell, as most cases involving children involve parents/close family/friends. I just dont understand how they were written off so quickly. To do a real investigation at this point would mean questioning the parents, the friends, ad going over every damn thing with a fine tooth comb, no matter how uncomfortable this makes people. Yes, chances are nothing would come of it, but it needs to be done.




Making up burglars who happen to take children instead of valuables is not what should be happening at this point 6 years and 10m+ on.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I dont mind about the 48 questions particularly, some were quite loaded. Though many of them were perfectly fine..and I dont see why she wouldnt answer those ones.

But I do NOT understand why the parents were never suspects here. Their word that it was an abduction was just taken. Its dodgy as hell, as most cases involving children involve parents/close family/friends. I just dont understand how they were written off so quickly. To do a real investigation at this point would mean questioning the parents, the friends, ad going over every damn thing with a fine tooth comb, no matter how uncomfortable this makes people. Yes, chances are nothing would come of it, but it needs to be done.




Making up burglars who happen to take children instead of valuables is not what should be happening at this point 6 years and 10m+ on.

I completely agree. I take issue with the McCanns refusing to co-operate with the police. Some of those questions were brutal, yes, but don't they understand that the police have to explore every avenue to try and find out what happened to her? The police need to be able to rule them out as suspects in order to narrow down their enquiries; by not playing ball the McCanns have held up the investigation and have ensured that any chance of finding Madeleine went from possible to bordering on impossible. Or perhaps they do understand perfectly well that by refusing to cooperate, they make it difficult for the police to solve the crime because there are just too many possibilities that lead to more possibilities for the police to ever realistically solve this in a reasonable amount of time - maybe they're hoping that by the time the police make any sort of breakthrough, the leads will be dead anyway.

I just can't understand why a mother who has lost her child would do anything other than fully cooperate with the police. Wouldn't you do whatever you could to try and get your child back? Then again, regardless of her guilt, I'm not surprised. It's just yet another example of their selfish behaviour - she'd rather not answer the questions and wallow in how offended she is that they would ask her such questions than answer them and help the police help her get her daughter back. How can she be so selfish that she doesn't want to help them help her out? Can't she see that the questions aren't being asked to offend her, they're being asked to narrow down the enquiries? But this is a woman who was happy to leave her children alone in an unlocked holiday apartment out of her sight, so why am I at all surprised?