[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Ive got smoke coming out of my bloody ears, Ive never ,ever seen anyone stoop so low ,just watched it as i had it on catch up because hubby watching tv ,Im livid

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Sorry Sam got to disagree here, he said that to cut her to the bone ,and it worked,never hated anyone in BB so much ,linda lost her sister last year,,she didnt need that ,and there was no need to say that,. he said it to hurt her and hes done what he set out to do

We don't disagree, I have stated on several posts that he was wrong to say it but I was offering a reason for why he said it. 2 wrongs never make a right.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

We don't disagree, I have stated on several posts that he was wrong to say it but I was offering a reason for why he said it. 2 wrongs never make a right.

Sams there is never a reason to justify what Jim did tonight ,Im off before I get banned ,my sister died 3 yrs ago if ever anyone said one word about her ,esp now shes not here to defend herself I would do time for it

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Well hes shown his true colours tonight, what a dirty rotten ,lowlife bastard he is, Lindas husband cannot defend himself, Im fuming ,that poor cow ,no need for that whatsoever

common sense .

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Sorry Sam got to disagree here, he said that to cut her to the bone ,and it worked,never hated anyone in BB so much ,linda lost her sister last year,,she didnt need that ,and there was no need to say that,. he said it to hurt her and hes done what he set out to do

Nah Chuff. I might agree with you if he had pulled out an unrelated issue during their first argument, but this is him trying to defend himself against a constant assault from Linda, especially as she is turning the house against him and he knows that his role in getting her hubby arrested is at the heart of her hatred towards him. If someone constantly berated me for helping bring a relative to justice, and people were being poisoned against me, I would want the facts made public whether their loved one was dead, dying or sat beside me so as to clear the air. I'm amazed he's held his tongue for so long, but I believe he was going for a live and let live approach.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

Nah Chuff. I might agree with you if he had pulled out an unrelated issue during their first argument, but this is him trying to defend himself against a constant assault from Linda, especially as she is turning the house against him and he knows that his role in getting her hubby arrested is at the heart of her hatred towards him. If someone constantly berated me for helping bring a relative to justice, and people were being poisoned against me, I would want the facts made public whether their loved one was dead, dying or sat beside me so as to clear the air. I'm amazed he's held his tongue for so long, but I believe he was going for a live and let live approach.

[Z]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

Nah Chuff. I might agree with you if he had pulled out an unrelated issue during their first argument, but this is him trying to defend himself against a constant assault from Linda, especially as she is turning the house against him and he knows that his role in getting her hubby arrested is at the heart of her hatred towards him. If someone constantly berated me for helping bring a relative to justice, and people were being poisoned against me, I would want the facts made public whether their loved one was dead, dying or sat beside me so as to clear the air. I'm amazed he's held his tongue for so long, but I believe he was going for a live and let live approach.

I agree with you. What he did was horrible but she has been trying to get him to do something like this for two weeks!

[rionablue]

I personally CANNOT STAND HIM. I don't like Linda much either but Jim is arrogant, preachy, nasty, homophobic and rude and I cannot for the LIFE of me think of why anyone should support him in here. He won over the general public twice now and no way in the world would I ever pick up the phone to save him. I don't know why people spent so much of their cash saving him. Linda is no angel and she has been contributing to their bust ups also but Jim is plain NASTY and a horrible horrible man. And its my opinion and Im entitled to it before anyone comes shouting the odds at me

[Arrow]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Well hes shown his true colours tonight, what a dirty rotten ,lowlife bastard he is, Lindas husband cannot defend himself, Im fuming ,that poor cow ,no need for that whatsoever

how do you fill about jimmy savil


how dare all these woman say these things about him when he cannot defend himself


do you see how floored your logic is ?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Well hes shown his true colours tonight, what a dirty rotten ,lowlife bastard he is, Lindas husband cannot defend himself, Im fuming ,that poor cow ,no need for that whatsoever

What it's not like he made it up! You could see he knew he put his foot in it and tried desperately to backtrack which shows humanity on his part. She played her part in needling him constantly as well.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What it's not like he made it up! You could see he knew he put his foot in it and tried desperately to backtrack which shows humanity on his part. She played her part in needling him constantly as well.

I know, right? He just needs to blank her completely. That's what i would do. Sometimes there's no other way.

[RomanyGirl]

Originally Posted by rionablue

I personally CANNOT STAND HIM. I don't like Linda much either but Jim is arrogant, preachy, nasty, homophobic and rude and I cannot for the LIFE of me think of why anyone should support him in here. He won over the general public twice now and no way in the world would I ever pick up the phone to save him. I don't know why people spent so much of their cash saving him. Linda is no angel and she has been contributing to their bust ups also but Jim is plain NASTY and a horrible horrible man. And its my opinion and Im entitled to it before anyone comes shouting the odds at me

I totally agree. Jim likes to poke the fire and then claim he didnt do anything and its all Linda's (or whoever else) fault. He shouldnt have brought it up as it was Linda's husband that committed the crime not Linda!

He is really scum for doing this!

[anne666]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Well hes shown his true colours tonight, what a dirty rotten ,lowlife bastard he is, Lindas husband cannot defend himself, Im fuming ,that poor cow ,no need for that whatsoever

I agree. What a vicious and shocking thing to say. How low can anyone go? Would he dare say that to any man about his deceased wife? Then he lied about it and than tried to blame Louisa for telling her. He didn't even have the balls to say it to her face! I'm sickened.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What it's not like he made it up! You could see he knew he put his foot in it and tried desperately to backtrack which shows humanity on his part. She played her part in needling him constantly as well.

I don't think he expected Louisa to tell her and then blamed her for doing so. What a coward! Linda didn't commit the crime either. No-one deserves that cruelty.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

Nah Chuff. I might agree with you if he had pulled out an unrelated issue during their first argument, but this is him trying to defend himself against a constant assault from Linda, especially as she is turning the house against him and he knows that his role in getting her hubby arrested is at the heart of her hatred towards him. If someone constantly berated me for helping bring a relative to justice, and people were being poisoned against me, I would want the facts made public whether their loved one was dead, dying or sat beside me so as to clear the air. I'm amazed he's held his tongue for so long, but I believe he was going for a live and let live approach.

Why didn't he speak to her privately about it then?

[Z]

Originally Posted by anne666

I agree. What a vicious and shocking thing to say. How low can anyone go? Would he dare say that to any man about his deceased wife? Then he lied about it and than tried to blame Louisa for telling her. He didn't even have the balls to say it to her face! I'm sickened.

Of course he didn't have the balls to say it to her face, it was a cheap shot and he knew it - I don't really see the point in offering up the "would he say it to a man about his deceased wife" argument because that doesn't apply to any of the other male housemates, none of them have deceased spouses. He knew what he said was offensive and wrong which is why he backtracked and tried to lie about it.

However, Linda has been gunning for him for two weeks. She's been trying to provoke him into doing something like this and now she's finally gotten her wish - and she didn't like the end result. What was she expecting? So I don't really have any sympathy for her on that front, she's been goading him on purpose for exactly this scenario to unfold; but I feel sorry for her that he took such a cheap shot at her.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Linda's been picking on him since they went in, she's a pain in the arse.

She has indeed, I think Jim meant to get this out as he thinks it can be the only thing that she can hate him for.

he went around it an odd way I'd agree but as you say she has been picking on him since they went in and she wanted a full blown outburst.
Well done to him again for not giving her that and despite the way he went around it,in my view, she is the one who looks the more ridiculous and vindictive again from their tussles tonight.

She is miserable, unforgiving, rotten and a nasty piece of work just like her Sister is too.
For me she got a bit of what was coming her tonight and now she has more reason to be sour faced and set out playing the victim just like her Sister before her in the house..

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Arrow

how do you fill about jimmy savil


how dare all these woman say these things about him when he cannot defend himself


do you see how floored your logic is ?

Yeah, because stealing money from someone's wallet is TOTALLY like being a sexual predator.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What it's not like he made it up! You could see he knew he put his foot in it and tried desperately to backtrack which shows humanity on his part. She played her part in needling him constantly as well.

Or maybe the backtracking was because he doesn't want to lose the public's support.

[Z]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Or maybe the backtracking was because he doesn't want to lose the public's support.

Jim? The man who openly, intentionally insulted the crowd outside on the last eviction? I somehow don't think so. The guy didn't have any public support going into this program.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by anne666

Why didn't he speak to her privately about it then?

Exactly.

Apparently he's been goading her about the incident already when he made a dig about helping her out in Blackpool. Anyone remember when that happened?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Zee

Jim? The man who openly, intentionally insulted the crowd outside on the last eviction? I somehow don't think so. The guy didn't have any public support going into this program.

He knows he has the public support from being saved first twice and the cheers from the rent a mob.

[coolface]

that whole argument was really uncomfortable viewing,

[Z]

Originally Posted by MrWong

He knows he has the public support from being saved first twice and the cheers from the rent a mob.

You could be right, but the guy's shown on numerous occasions that he's not the horrible wanker that the media like to make him out to be - he gave Luisa a pep talk the night she'd argued with Dappy and Lionel; he's laughed and joked with Linda in between scrapping with her etc... he said what he said to Luisa, not Linda, and when he found out that Linda knew what he'd said, he backtracked because he didn't ever intend for her to hear it. He recognised that what he said was wrong, regardless of whether or not he and Linda hate each other, it wasn't fair and he recognised that. It's a bit cynical to think he only tried to apologise and backtracked because of what the public might think, 1) because who does that and 2) because okay he might have been cheered there but he is more than aware that the public know all about his past and consider him to be an arsehole, he was cast as the house villain and it hasn't turned out like that at all until maybe now.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by anne666

Why didn't he speak to her privately about it then?

Linda has never spoken to Jim privately. Linda has ralled her coven repeatedly, publicly lambasted Jim at every opportunity, and even on his first CBB night, on what might have been the first day of a new life/career for him, he had to listen to her slag him off in front of the nation (unprovoked as well, unless 20yrs ago still counts and is relevant, especially considering he has had his own difficulties over the last year and demons to deal with.) Also, earlier in the night after making dinner, she verbally went for him again in front of everyone, telling him not to bother.

If he is trying to learn self-control and avoid conflict, he needs to avoid the poison dwarf at all costs. Apologies to dwarves.