[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

EXACTLY, makes me sick people who have made an hero out of him since he made a woman sob on national Tv ,disgusting

All that loud weeping and wailing was obviously just a ploy to gain sympathy and manipulate people into blaming Jim for upsetting her. I don't know why you can't see that.

If I'd been in Jim's position and constantly hearing people bitching about me whenever I walked into a room, I'd have spent most of my time in the bathroom weeping and trying not to let people realise I was so upset. I don't blame him for retorting to some of her comments. That's a typical way a comic would deal with things - they have to be quick with the retorts. I'm a teacher and had to develop the same ability PDQ. I've never seen his show and know nothing about him but I have quite appreciated the input he's had in the house - he's very wise and quite caring. He reminds me of my father, who is also a bit of a bigot, like Jim, but he's been a tower of strength for me throughout my life - my first port of call in trouble. I think the bigotry is a generational thing - men were pushed in this dominant role, expected to see women as the weaker sex, and required to bottle up their emotions. I'm really glad I'm a woman - we seem to get away with far more than guys these days - snideness, manipulativeness, bitchiness, spite, inappropriate sexual comments/behaviour and a lot more.