[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Totally agree with this. Its only because Jim has a 'history' people seem to think he deserves it but he's definitely being singled out in that house.

It's starting to remind me of Aaron. He was in a similar situation.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's starting to remind me of Aaron. He was in a similar situation.

and they're both as awful as each other, what a coincidence

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

and they're both as awful as each other, what a coincidence

For you, maybe. A lot of people like him. He won the show.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

For you, maybe. A lot of people like him. He won the show.

He won because FB voting was ridiculous cheap and the forums were a fringe group with way too much control.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

He won because FB voting was ridiculous cheap and the forums were a fringe group with way too much control.

He WON,end of and rightly so

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Zee

I would say a group of people sitting around bitching about one person repeatedly for two weeks and analysing every minor thing that they do, making a point of winding them up and harassing them is bullying if you put that on paper in front of me without me knowing who the people involved were. I think because Jim hasn't been crying, has an unpleasant past and because he's a man and the people bitching about him are women; people are refusing to call it bullying, but to me it looks like bullying on paper. Whether or not he feels bullied, I have no idea.

Wow! This thread moves fast. This is so similar to the way I see things. I just cross-posted something similar, but you make more points. I'm sure that Jim feels bullied, but I think he's probably looking on it as a bit of an endurance test, and must be feeling a sense of satisfaction that he hasn't lost his cool.

[Munchkins]

Omg Deana was bullied, with threats of violence, aka the Epilator incident
anyone who denies that O_O
there definitely is a gang mentality with Jim, which is nasty, but its mainly all stemmed from Linda

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He WON,end of and rightly so

and he was greeted with a chorus of BOOS, end of and rightly so

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

Omg Deana was bullied, with threats of violence, aka the Epilator incident
anyone who denies that O_O
there definitely is a gang mentality with Jim, which is nasty, but its mainly all stemmed from Linda

PM hunneh

[GiRTh]

Before the series stated I would baulk at the thought of Jim Davidson winning BB. I'm aware of his history and it shows he's not a particularly nice person but now I think of all the Hm;'s he deserves the victory more than any other. He's only probably done two things that people can point as being unacceptable; apart from that he's behaved himself in the face of alot of provocation. He'd be a worthy winner.;

[joeysteele]

There is a nastier element ot what they are doing as to Jim, okay he may be miserable a lot but he does try to just get away from them.
They don't do that they set out to 'pick on him' for want of a better description.

I hold back usually from bullying as a word being used, but definitely Linda and Luisa are picking on him, they also do so trying to use the group as a whole to join in with their 'harrassment' of him.

For me, because he doesn't really fight back,they are able to keep on picking every fault at near everything he does and try to belittle him.
This definitely is the closest to bullying I have come across.

They also are well aware that should he ever explode and fire back in a real rage at them he will likely be seen as the bad guy and end up in fact being seen the bully,which they could then use even more against him.

So far he has shown incredible restraint in my opinion and I doubt in the face of what he has had to put up with I would have shown such restraint.

[Z]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Before the series stated I would baulk at the thought of Jim Davidson winning BB. I'm aware of his history and it shows he's not a particularly nice person but now I think of all the Hm;'s he deserves the victory more than any other. He's only probably done two things that people can point as being unacceptable; apart from that he's behaved himself in the face of alot of provocation. He'd be a worthy winner.;

That's how I feel too.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

and he was greeted with a chorus of BOOS, end of and rightly so

He won who cares about the boos

[Macie Lightfoot]

If we want to talk about any bullying or harassment, the whole Frank Carson incident epitomizes Jim's awfulness

[Alf]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

and he was greeted with a chorus of BOOS, end of and rightly so

Makes it even better when you win and the Morons boo.

[Z]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

If we want to talk about any bullying or harassment, the whole Frank Carson incident epitomizes Jim's awfulness

The part where he dobbed him in for being a criminal or the part where he mentioned it to Luisa to go ask Linda if that's why she hates him so much?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

If we want to talk about any bullying or harassment, the whole Frank Carson incident epitomizes Jim's awfulness

That was totally unacceptable but apart from that what has he done? He bought up something that he admitted he shouldn't have in the heat of the moment. Have you never done that? Has Linda never done that?. He apologised TWiICE the very next day. What more is he to do?

On the other hand look at the provocation he's had to put up with. The constant questioning of everything he says and giving it a sexist slant, Linda spreading her hatred of him throughout that house, deliberately trying to wake him up when he wants to sleep. He's put up with far more from them than they have from him.

[Lex]

Yes, the 'old big star' is definitely being bullied by the 'new nobodys' and the bitter 'old witch' ....but I think that they are ultimately going to loose,...and Jim will outstay them all!!

Jim For The Win.

[joeysteele]

Mentioning the Frank Carson incident has projected this CBB right into the public eye and done wonders for it really.

Had Linda took him to one side and said why she hated him so much, she could have avoided that.
However did she not relish having the chance to get at him and milk it for all it was worth afterwards.

Then she tried to gloss over the real story and what happened.
Stupid woman that she is.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Zee

The part where he dobbed him in for being a criminal or the part where he mentioned it to Luisa to go ask Linda if that's why she hates him so much?

The part where he terrorized a widow who filed for bankruptcy and was on welfare. That's not sympathetic or relatable or funny or entertaining to me.

Originally Posted by GiRTh

That was totally unacceptable but apart from that what has he done? He bought up something that he admitted he shouldn't have in the heat of the moment. Have you never done that? Has Linda never done that?. He apologised TWiICE the very next day. What more is he to do?

On the other hand look at the provocation he's had to put up with. The constant questioning of everything he says and giving it a sexist slant, Linda spreading her hatred of him throughout that house, deliberately trying to wake him up when he wants to sleep. He's put up with far more from them than they have from him.

It wasn't just him bringing it up. It was the fact that she was in her bed near (and eventually in) tears and he kept covering around her trying to get a reaction in the smuggest of ways, misrepresenting what he said. And his first apology that morning was the most transparent thing I've seen so that doesn't even count in my books.

[Jezzy]

Lex, it is so lovely to see you!!

In the heat of the moment I'd probably have brought that up too if I'm being absolutely honest. I have a long fuse which I don't think Jim does, so even more respect to him. Pick...pick...pick...pick....enough to drive a nun (or a Nolan) to the point of no return.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

It wasn't just him bringing it up. It was the fact that she was in her bed near (and eventually in) tears and he kept covering around her trying to get a reaction in the smuggest of ways, misrepresenting what he said. And his first apology that morning was the most transparent thing I've seen so that doesn't even count in my books.

Absolutely not how I saw it.

The moment he realized what Lujisa had done his mood changed , he lost his confidence and actually questioned why Luisa would do that. He knew he;d touched on a sore point and for me never tried to gloat.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Absolutely not how I saw it.

The moment he realized what Lujisa had done his mood changed , he lost his confidence and actually questioned why Luisa would do that. He knew he;d touched on a sore point and for me never tried to gloat.

It was entirely calculated and he tried to go back on what he said, telling Luisa that it wasn't wise when she did exactly what he told her to do.

[Jordan.]

It's bullying to not like someone? Maybe stop and think why most people don't like him in the house.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

The part where he terrorized a widow who filed for bankruptcy and was on welfare. That's not sympathetic or relatable or funny or entertaining to me.



It wasn't just him bringing it up. It was the fact that she was in her bed near (and eventually in) tears and he kept covering around her trying to get a reaction in the smuggest of ways, misrepresenting what he said. And his first apology that morning was the most transparent thing I've seen so that doesn't even count in my books.

I think this was said by the actress Bette Davis about Joan Crawford but it is for me something that can also be appropriate for not only Linda but also her Sister Coleen too as to tears.

The quote goes not word for word, 'I think the tear ducts of her eyes must be near her bladder since she cries an awful lot'.

It seems to me, both Coleen and Linda are very adept at turning on the tears for maximum effect, it is maybe the only thing they are good at.