[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by jet

No, I don't feel it is payback because I don't believe he is being bullied. Please don't put words into my mouth.
What I said was I don't freaking care about HM's sniping and bitching at him, because he hasn't exactly been blameless himself in the house.
He was a nasty man and I haven't seen any great change in him to make me think he is now a good man. Maybe he's mellowed with age, but I still don't like the person he was. If you want to spend hours on end championing such a man, that is your prerogative.
My stance is - who freaking cares is he isn't having a good time in the house. He wouldn't know what a good time was if it bit him on the ass. He's a spoiled, grumpy git spreading misery and getting back misery in return.

What you said included this:

Why would anyone give a rat's ass if they bitch about him? He's given out a 1000 times worse over they years and he knows it.
He beat up his wife and thumped her in the stomach with a barbell

I am not championing Jim Davidson. I am discussing the issue of bullying, group dynamics, mobbing, manipulation, etc. I would say the same things no matter who the target was. We too, btw, are manipulated by BB, who manipulate our opinions by presenting their pick of clips in order to cause the maximum controversy. It's an evil genius, but that's what makes it compulsive viewing.