[Ammi]

..this is the first time that I've really enjoyed a BB for a long time, even though I haven't had an outright favourite and I especially haven't favoured Jim...but the reason I have enjoyed it is because I have found the personalities really interesting, even when they've said/done things that I haven't agreed with and that's because their characters are quite flawed, which is what makes them interesting to watch...we all decide whether there are things that we like and admire in those personalities or not but for me, although I don't dislike Sam, I can't see anything in her to form an opinion of, which is the type of person that I least want to see go into BB....I can't even say she's a nice person because I don't know if she is or not, she hasn't showed anything at all that I can form an opinion on...

[Z]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Siavash and Aaron and Dexter and Jim are all horrendous and their "gameplaying" was largely disgusting and off-putting. How much you're discussed doesn't really have a bearing on how worthy you are of winning, nobody acts like Jade was robbed of her victory and cheering audience in CBB5.

How much you're discussed really should have a bearing on how worthy you are of winning IMO. Nobody acts like Jade was robbed of her victory because Shilpa won and she thoroughly deserved to, she was the victim of a gaggle of pathetic girls being horrible to and about her which ultimately degenerated into very nasty territory and she walked away from it with her head held high and never truly rose to the bait. You can say the exact same thing about Jim when it came to the other housemates in this series, led by Linda. The villain was evicted, rightfully, and the victim will no doubt go on to win just like Shilpa did. People like to say "but Jim's a chauvinist, Jim's a wife beater, Jim's this, Jim's that" but that doesn't excuse Linda's obsessive hatred of him and that's precisely why he's got so many fans. He never truly rose to the bait.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Siavash and Aaron and Dexter and Jim are all horrendous and their "gameplaying" was largely disgusting and off-putting. How much you're discussed doesn't really have a bearing on how worthy you are of winning, nobody acts like Jade was robbed of her victory and cheering audience in CBB5.

..for me, Arron was the 'king' of game players and always will be because he 'played' the public so well but most housemates are gameplayers anyway, even Sam..she's been playing a game of flying under the radar, which is why she and Ollie were given the sitting in the fence task...so it's really down to what we like more in a gameplay or dislike the least....

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Shaun

It was probably already a foregone conclusion, but Jim's appearance tonight was a winning episode. Even I slightly warmed to him - he was funny, compassionate and pretty level-headed about the whole fallout. I can't see him losing the title now.

I have to say your sig gif has me laughing uncontrollably. We can only hope he wins

[Pincho Paxton]

People who say that Big Brother isn't a social experiment should look again at this house. This was made up of social dilemmas all the way through. You can't take the social experiment out of the show. And as a social experiment Jim came out of it looking the best. Jim to win.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Zee

How much you're discussed really should have a bearing on how worthy you are of winning IMO. Nobody acts like Jade was robbed of her victory because Shilpa won and she thoroughly deserved to, she was the victim of a gaggle of pathetic girls being horrible to and about her which ultimately degenerated into very nasty territory and she walked away from it with her head held high and never truly rose to the bait. You can say the exact same thing about Jim when it came to the other housemates in this series, led by Linda. The villain was evicted, rightfully, and the victim will no doubt go on to win just like Shilpa did. People like to say "but Jim's a chauvinist, Jim's a wife beater, Jim's this, Jim's that" but that doesn't excuse Linda's obsessive hatred of him and that's precisely why he's got so many fans. He never truly rose to the bait.

But Jim isn't a victim. He paints himself as the victim in an attempt at gameplaying and I'm truly astounded at how many people are buying it. His whole MO has been to make passive aggressive comments solely at women, act confused when they are reasonably defensive, and then grumble on and on about "surprise surprise, another argument!" and go out for a smoke. If you're really comparing Linda and the other women disliking Jim for perfectly valid reasons to Jade and her crew's racist bullying of Shilpa, that delusion speaks for itself.

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

But Jim isn't a victim. He paints himself as the victim in an attempt at gameplaying and I'm truly astounded at how many people are buying it. His whole MO has been to make passive aggressive comments solely at women, act confused when they are reasonably defensive, and then grumble on and on about "surprise surprise, another argument!" and go out for a smoke. If you're really comparing Linda and the other women disliking Jim for perfectly valid reasons to Jade and her crew's racist bullying of Shilpa, that delusion speaks for itself.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

But Jim isn't a victim. He paints himself as the victim in an attempt at gameplaying and I'm truly astounded at how many people are buying it. His whole MO has been to make passive aggressive comments solely at women, act confused when they are reasonably defensive, and then grumble on and on about "surprise surprise, another argument!" and go out for a smoke. If you're really comparing Linda and the other women disliking Jim for perfectly valid reasons to Jade and her crew's racist bullying of Shilpa, that delusion speaks for itself.

I totally agree with you troy. Jims hatered for Jasmine was very evident specially when he was bad mouthing her to the other housemates. He only nominated women. I have a very good sense of humour and find a lot of things entertaining but Jim has not amused nor entertained me. He is a mans man and his cuddling Casey and telling her that her parents would be proud of her was probably a stand out moment as he hasn't got close to any other woman in there for the entirety of the show. Jim doesn't deserve to win and as a woman I fail FAIL fail to see why he has such a huge female fanbase. Sorry but that's my opinion.

[Z]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

But Jim isn't a victim. He paints himself as the victim in an attempt at gameplaying and I'm truly astounded at how many people are buying it. His whole MO has been to make passive aggressive comments solely at women, act confused when they are reasonably defensive, and then grumble on and on about "surprise surprise, another argument!" and go out for a smoke. If you're really comparing Linda and the other women disliking Jim for perfectly valid reasons to Jade and her crew's racist bullying of Shilpa, that delusion speaks for itself.

I don't think Jim paints himself as a victim at all. He tried on numerous occasions to make amends with Linda and she flat out refused to put the thing to bed. To me, that matters more than what happened 20 years ago or who is in the right or wrong. Jim was willing to make amends and Linda didn't want to let go of her anger. The only person that's hurting is Linda, not Jim. Jim hasn't said anything to Sam, Casey or Liz that could be construed as sexist to my knowledge - Linda obviously hates him and he clashed with Luisa and Jasmine but don't forget it takes two to tango. The only person with a valid reason to dislike Jim is Linda. The rest of them were led by her obsessive hatred and all three of the remaining female housemates admitted that they were just going along with Linda and actually thought she was a bit obsessed and Jim isn't that bad. The videos are there and speak for themselves. I am not deluded. I have been balanced and fair, I think, in my assessment of every video clip I've seen and my judgment is that Jim has kept his head high while Linda tried her best to provoke him and all it really did was make her look bitter and gave Jim added support because of the way he deftly dealt with her. I'm not comparing the actual situations of Jim Davidson and Shilpa Shetty, don't be ridiculous, I'm just saying that the reason the public have got behind Jim is that we don't like to see someone be picked on. You can be picked on regardless of how you respond to it, your emotional response doesn't dictate whether or not you are being attacked - Jim being emotionless doesn't mean he wasn't being targeted by Linda and friends, nor does it excuse his past misdemeanours but that's exactly why he's so popular and to think otherwise is what's deluded here. He's not popular because he had an abusive past, he's popular because a bitter old woman wanted him to fail and he didn't.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

But Jim isn't a victim. He paints himself as the victim in an attempt at gameplaying and I'm truly astounded at how many people are buying it. His whole MO has been to make passive aggressive comments solely at women, act confused when they are reasonably defensive, and then grumble on and on about "surprise surprise, another argument!" and go out for a smoke. If you're really comparing Linda and the other women disliking Jim for perfectly valid reasons to Jade and her crew's racist bullying of Shilpa, that delusion speaks for itself.

..I don't think it's about people 'buying it' though, I know he's played on the victim thing, but that doesn't mean that his time in there and his attempt to win the public has been easy because I think it's been extremely difficult and much more so than any other housemate I can think of with Linda's relentless obsessive hatred toward him..but with all of that, he's still managed to react fairly well on the whole...not always, but not many people could have fought back a natural reaction to her behaviour and for that, I give him credit...

..I also think that the last week or so, he's showed a quite caring and paternal side to the younger housemates which I think is genuine and he appears to be 'growing' as a person through his experience and I think that public approval through him winning will also help him..so whatever 'Jim Davidson' went into the house, if a much better one comes out, then to me that's a worthy winner and a good thing....

[Slevin]

i dont get why people keep saying if Sam wins we'll just get more winners that coast. dont get me wrong i dont want her winning but she wouldnt be the first bore/coaster to win a BB in the UK.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Slevin

i dont get why people keep saying if Sam wins we'll just get more winners that coast. dont get me wrong i dont want her winning but she wouldnt be the first bore/coaster to win a BB in the UK.

Your whole post is a contradiction Slevin! I think it is a real shame when the HMs who carry the show are overtaken by bores at the finishing line.

[Slevin]

im not saying i want bores to be the winner. im saying bores have won before and people are bringing her or Ollie up like its never happened before and they'll be the reason if more like em do.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Slevin

im not saying i want bores to be the winner. im saying bores have won before and people are bringing her or Ollie up like its never happened before and they'll be the reason if more like em do.

..I think it's more for me that if 'bores' do keep winning, then we'll always get them but if more gameplayers win, then we'll start to see more and more of them, which are more interesting people...I don't know if that will actually happen, but I guess it's just more hoping that it will....

..I think everyone likes 'nice people' there isn't anything not to like but they're just not why a lot of people watch and enjoy BB...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Slevin

im not saying i want bores to be the winner. im saying bores have won before and people are bringing her or Ollie up like its never happened before and they'll be the reason if more like em do.

Ok I got you! I suppose whatever series it is there will always be people who coast along and fly under the radar, not sure they should ever win though.

[Slevin]

i dont watch it for those types either. theres gonna be some though. doesnt mean i like it or like em winning. they shouldnt but **** happens.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well he's the only one that's going to stop a repugnant dullard victory which will without a doubt ruin the end of the best ever CBB, so I hope he takes it.

Yes, a dullard victory would be awful. Worst still would be a selfish, immature, massively irritating person winning.

IE, Luisa.

I still fear she may have more support than Jim.

I can't stand the woman but I bet she comes if not first a very close second.

It sticks in my throat to say it but I can only say what I believe.

God knows what her appeal is though. I find her revolting and in the past few days fake as hell. People say she's entertaining. I am still baffled what is entertaining about her.

She's realised she has to act up a bit to win votes. Lately she's been put on this nicey nicey image. Don't believe it.

Although I expect most people do believe the act.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

But Jim isn't a victim. He paints himself as the victim in an attempt at gameplaying and I'm truly astounded at how many people are buying it. His whole MO has been to make passive aggressive comments solely at women, act confused when they are reasonably defensive, and then grumble on and on about "surprise surprise, another argument!" and go out for a smoke. If you're really comparing Linda and the other women disliking Jim for perfectly valid reasons to Jade and her crew's racist bullying of Shilpa, that delusion speaks for itself.

passive aggressive lol........the man is witty smart funny and honest. its sad people cant see the difference.

he has been bullied like shilpa and dirk benedict was...incidentally why dont you mention the massive discrimination and bullying dirk benedict had to suffer (and mike madsen) is it because theyre men so theyre meant to man up and take the abuse? dirk was mocked for having cancer which made him impotent at one stage in his life, he also had a couple of years as an alcoholic and he was ridiculed for that, jade and co also stole his drinks...coco bullied and abused him verbally throughout, we also had the usual anti american vibe....similar for mike madsen who was hunted down and verbally abused and physically struck in the face by denise welch and yet not even a warning for her? did you mention any of this?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Yes, a dullard victory would be awful. Worst still would be a selfish, immature, massively irritating person winning.

IE, Luisa.

I still fear she may have more support than Jim.

I can't stand the woman but I bet she comes if not first a very close second.

It sticks in my throat to say it but I can only say what I believe.

God knows what her appeal is though. I find her revolting and in the past few days fake as hell. People say she's entertaining. I am still baffled what is entertaining about her.

She's realised she has to act up a bit to win votes. Lately she's been put on this nicey nicey image. Don't believe it.

Although I expect most people do believe the act.

I wholeheartedly agree, she is a vile selfish mean spirited spineless bully. cold ruthless heartless dishonest gossip monger. Money is her God and narcissim is her game

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

But Jim isn't a victim. He paints himself as the victim in an attempt at gameplaying and I'm truly astounded at how many people are buying it. His whole MO has been to make passive aggressive comments solely at women, act confused when they are reasonably defensive, and then grumble on and on about "surprise surprise, another argument!" and go out for a smoke. If you're really comparing Linda and the other women disliking Jim for perfectly valid reasons to Jade and her crew's racist bullying of Shilpa, that delusion speaks for itself.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Yes, a dullard victory would be awful. Worst still would be a selfish, immature, massively irritating person winning.

IE, Luisa.

I still fear she may have more support than Jim.

I can't stand the woman but I bet she comes if not first a very close second.

It sticks in my throat to say it but I can only say what I believe.

God knows what her appeal is though. I find her revolting and in the past few days fake as hell. People say she's entertaining. I am still baffled what is entertaining about her.

She's realised she has to act up a bit to win votes. Lately she's been put on this nicey nicey image. Don't believe it.

Although I expect most people do believe the act.

[coolface]

yep jim to win

[joeysteele]

I am both surprised and pleased at how many people I have come across who are talking about BB again and in particular Jim, Luisa and Linda.

Outside of the love triangle they have been the talked about housemates,it has almost been like a soap opera as to them.

It is again both surprising and pleasing too for me to find that those people are all more,not always, in agreement with Jim and his actions than Linda's and Luisa's.

I am not that sure Jim will win or that he has sealed his win in the highlights last night at all.
However for me,he has rarely put a foot wrong and has been an amazing and entertaining housemate.
If he wins and for me I'd like him to, then in my opinion he would certainly be one of the most deserving winners of any CBB series.

[Patricia4]

Three mothers went in there yesterday and he got a kiss off Luisa mam a great thankyou from Casey's mam and Sams mam throw him a kiss I thought that was lovely.
Jim will win this if not we will have to put up with Luisa but I hope not.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

"A repugnant dullard victory" will certainly be better than a JIM DAVIDSON victory so fingers crossed. If it somehow ends up being a Sam Faiers win, even better since it'll be a victory for women all over <3

When you report me for calling you an unreasonable "Misandrist", remember to quote the above post to show how unreal the allegation is!