[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

And lets be honest here ,Lionel helped her over fence and told her to get the chocolates ,he was 2 faced in front of others because he didnt want them to know he had encouraged her

Yeah and he was really ott and nasty about her as well while they were arguing

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, no ones perfect eh? Her faults don't bother as much as Dappys do though. He makes my skin crawl, Luisa doesn't. And I think by and large her honesty is admirable and can be very constructive and she's not afraid to be honest to people she gets on with as well.

But she has double standards and you cant stand double standards or are you conveniently putting those issues to one side. If I can put Luisa third you can at least say something nice about Dappy. Come on, you have the whole forum Surely you have to admit he's loyal, he's not as confrontation as we might think, he dedicated himself to the tasks, got on with everyone. What do you think?

[abhorson]

Sam
Ollie
Luisa
Casey
Dappy
Jim the man to win.


Vote Jim.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

But she has double standards and you cant stand double standards or are you conveniently putting those issues to one side. If I can put Luisa third you can at least say something nice about Dappy. Come on, you have the whole forum Surely you have to admit he's loyal, he's not as confrontation as we might think, he dedicated himself to the tasks, got on with everyone. What do you think?

Youve not sold him to me Girth

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

But she has double standards and you cant stand double standards or are you conveniently putting those issues to one side. If I can put Luisa third you can at least say something nice about Dappy. Come on, you have the whole forum Surely you have to admit he's loyal, he's not as confrontation as we might think, he dedicated himself to the tasks, got on with everyone. What do you think?

When i said double standards I was referring to the whole sexism issue, as in, it's ok for a man to do such and such but a woman can't etc etc, I thought I explained that already. I will try to think of something I like about Dappy but I'm going to struggle, he's only loyal when it comes to the men in there, I don't think he sees women as proper people, more like objects

[Kazanne]

1st out - Sam = bland and boring
2nd out - Casey= was a sap for Lee it spoilt her
3rd out - Luisa= Was growing on me but two faced and attention seeking
4th Out - Ollie= A nice guy
5th Out - Dappy= turned right round on Dappy,he's shown a very caring side
Winner - Jim =Well what can I say ,what a turnaround,funny guy and great one liners,winner for me.

[moni81]

1st out - Casey
2nd out - Sam
3rd out - Dappy
4th Out - Ollie
5th Out - Jim
Winner - Luisa

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Youve not sold him to me Girth

Just one nice thing. Its all I ask.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

When i said double standards I was referring to the whole sexism issue, as in, it's ok for a man to do such and such but a woman can't etc etc, I thought I explained that already. I will try to think of something I like about Dappy but I'm going to struggle, he's only loyal when it comes to the men in there, I don't think he sees women as proper people, more like objects

Thats quite an assumption given its based on one argument where it can easily be argued she became personal.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Thats quite an assumption given its based on one argument where it can easily be argued she became personal.

I'm not just basing that assumption on the one argument they had, it's the fact that he's always nominated the girls, never a man I don't think. The way he speaks about the girls in general, the way he nominated Luisa when I assumed they were friends. Again, I don't think you get where I'm coming from with the Luisa argument, i don't care if she got personal, that doesn't excuse his sexist opinions, and I'm not defending Luisa here, this isn't about Luisa for me, he could have been arguing with anyone in there, it's his sexist comments I don't like, it's got nothing to do with who he was arguing with, do you get what I mean?

[warrenhill]

Sam .....Shes only lasted this long because the housemate keep forgetting shes there when nominations come around


Olly.......Until the last few days has been a total bore.


Casey....It all went wrong when they let her and Lee back in ...


Jim........Entertaining to a point ...but after that just a misery.


Dappy....Been entertaining throughout and deserves runners up spot.


LUISA ...The winner and if it wasnt for her most would have turned off a long time ago....

[rionablue]

First out Sam : Much and all as I dislike Jim and I truly do I have to admit he has done more in the show than the boring pretty wallpaper that's called Sam
Second out Olly : Nice looking guy but hasn't contributed one bit to the entertainment value of the show and its only in the last few highlights shows he has actually been involved in ANY kind of conflict
Third out Jim : I am still astounded at his fanbase because I fail to see any good points about him. I have a great sense of humour but I think he has a miserable face, a sarcastic wit and is totally TOTALLY a mans man with the exception of his little Casey he has said horrible horrible things about the other women in there
Fourth out Casey. Only because she has been more involved in the storylines than Sam and Ollie. She spoilt it for herself by throwing herself at Lee and making herself look a fool. Lee always looked a fool anyway
Fifth out and in 2nd place Dappy. I have been up and down about him throughout but he deserves second place over anyone else I have already mentioned
Winner Luisa. Bitch yes, Sassy yes, Two faces probably, Annoying yes, Loud yes, But what a housemate. I couldn't take the crown from her in fairness. Nobody else deserves it more than she does

[minty3]

6th Sam
5th Casey
4th Ollie
3rd Jim
2nd dappy
1st luisa

[MeMyselfAndI]

1st - Luisa
2nd - Dappy
3rd - Ollie
4th - Sam
5th - Jim
6th - Casey

[Spring]

1st-Luisa
2nd-Ollie
3rd-Jim
4th-Dappy
5th- Casey

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not just basing that assumption on the one argument they had, it's the fact that he's always nominated the girls, never a man I don't think. The way he speaks about the girls in general, the way he nominated Luisa when I assumed they were friends. Again, I don't think you get where I'm coming from with the Luisa argument, i don't care if she got personal, that doesn't excuse his sexist opinions, and I'm not defending Luisa here, this isn't about Luisa for me, he could have been arguing with anyone in there, it's his sexist comments I don't like, it's got nothing to do with who he was arguing with, do you get what I mean?

OK I saw that as two people establishing their positions in the house.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

OK I saw that as two people establishing their positions in the house.

What? lol it feels like we're having a different conversation here. The reason I dislike Dappy so much is not related to how much I do or do not like Luisa. I didn't like him during that argument because he was horribly sexist and I despise sexism and double standards relating to sexism. The fact that it happened to be Luisa he was arguing with has no bearing on why I dislike dappy and his comments, it could have been Linda or Liz or Jasmine or sam and my opinion on his comments regarding women would be exactly the same.

[Lex]

1st out - Sam = Dull as ditchwater and kept voting for Jim to appease Linda.
2nd out - Luisa= Her game of nasty-bitch quickly wore thin for me.
3rd out - Casey= Been far desperate for airtime with the pathetic fauxmance.
4th Out - Ollie= A transparently professional nice guy..very tedious.
5th Out - Dappy= Two faced and desperate to win...but unintentionally funny.
Winner - Jim = As close to a genuine housemate as we got this time...and provided many laughs along the way... Worthy Winner!


...but then,..i'm always wrong, so who knows?

[warrenhill]

What amazes me is that the bookies make JIM the 2/9 fav to win.


Ok i can see how some people think hes a deserved winner but there are quite a few that think LUISA should win and she is 20/1.....


Maybe the bookies and channel 5 know something they are not telling us...


Can we see a "New" Jim Davidson show coming to C5 very soon....

[coolface]

Sam
Luisa
Ollie
Dappy
Jim

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What? lol it feels like we're having a different conversation here. The reason I dislike Dappy so much is not related to how much I do or do not like Luisa. I didn't like him during that argument because he was horribly sexist and I despise sexism and double standards relating to sexism. The fact that it happened to be Luisa he was arguing with has no bearing on why I dislike dappy and his comments, it could have been Linda or Liz or Jasmine or sam and my opinion on his comments regarding women would be exactly the same.

Do you only dislike double standards related to sexism or is it ok in other areas? I find that a confusing statement but you are entitled to your opinion.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What? lol it feels like we're having a different conversation here. The reason I dislike Dappy so much is not related to how much I do or do not like Luisa. I didn't like him during that argument because he was horribly sexist and I despise sexism and double standards relating to sexism. The fact that it happened to be Luisa he was arguing with has no bearing on why I dislike dappy and his comments, it could have been Linda or Liz or Jasmine or sam and my opinion on his comments regarding women would be exactly the same.

What?..the comment that he thought a woman that slept with 5 different men in one night is a slut?...what do you call that woman Niamh...a progressive lady??

...i'm not sticking up for Dappy [because I think he is a bit of a tool]...but is slut so far off the mark in your book?

[Mystic Mock]

6th - Casey - She only ever went on about Lee as she is just like Sam and Ollie without him.

5th - Ollie - Annoying little smug prick, his a poser, he also played on the bully card because he had one argument with Luisa and Linda, and again his very dull like Casey and Sam.

4th - Sam - She doesn't speak.

3rd - Jim - A very entertaining Housemate but his friendship with Casey which is quite forced for me is the main reason why I would place him in 3rd place.

2nd - Luisa - She maybe sexy, funny, and likeable and unlikeable at the same time, but she's no Dappy.

1st - Dappy - His not shown as much as Jim and Luisa on the highlights but when he does get shown his given me some of the most iconic moments in the series, especially when he is with Lulu.

[Sophiee]

6th - jim;
5th - dappy;
4th - casey;
3rd - sam;
2nd - ollie;
1st - luisa.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Do you only dislike double standards related to sexism or is it ok in other areas? I find that a confusing statement but you are entitled to your opinion.

Why is it confusing to understand that sexism is a pet peeve of mine so therefore bothers me more than other things?