[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

I disagree. It's been awful for a few years now.

In your opinion. The millions of viewers it gets across the globe would disagree with you though.

[King Gizzard]

and that, ladies and gentleman, is my first Dr Who diss of the year, and it took 2 months and 12 days

[Good King Glennceslas]

Nigel please

[T*]

The Simpsons.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Glenn

In your opinion. The millions of viewers it gets across the globe would disagree with you though.

It's lost ratings in the UK, and barely kept up with Merlin in America, that's not exactly a ratings giant.

Steven Moffat with his poor casting and bad/childish stories aren't helping it either imo.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Glenn

In your opinion. The millions of viewers it gets across the globe would disagree with you though.

Yes in my opinion which is what the OP asked, no? But if you want to go the 'viewers' route did the last series not take a drop in ratings from the one before it?

[Merry Mockmas]

Out of the Sci-Fi shows on air at the minute I know it's an Anime but it's one that I recommend to anyone that doesn't want to feel like the writers are treating you like morons.

Youtube video

The second season will be back on air at some point next month.

[Black Dagger]

Dr Who is awful.

[Kizzy]

Loads of stuff, the most annoying are gameshows hijacked by zelebs for charidee....just foff!

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Yes in my opinion which is what the OP asked, no? But if you want to go the 'viewers' route did the last series not take a drop in ratings from the one before it?

A very minor drop if any. I dont think a show like Doctor can ever lose its appeal. It reinvents itself. The 50th alone shows it appeal.

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

It's lost ratings in the UK, and barely kept up with Merlin in America, that's not exactly a ratings giant.

Steven Moffat with his poor casting and bad/childish stories aren't helping it either imo.

Steven Moffat with his poor casting? What are you talking about? The stories aren't bad if you compare them to the RTD days.

And the same Steven Moffat and his poor casting and rubbish stories helped take Doctor Who global. A feat RTD never achieved.

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Dr Who is awful.

[HD]

Dr Who is embarrassing lbh

[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

It's lost ratings in the UK, and barely kept up with Merlin in America, that's not exactly a ratings giant.

Steven Moffat with his poor casting and bad/childish stories aren't helping it either imo.

To be fair, America's an absolutely enormous country (especially in comparison to the UK), so its figures don't reflect what we get. And also there's been a general decline in viewership all over terrestrial television due to changing trends in catch-up, multichannels and all that.

[Marsh.]

Uh, Doctor Who was getting big in America during the RTD and David Tennant days.

Steven Moffat and Matt Smith took the show on and relished in its growing popularity but it wasn't them that got that ball rolling.

[Ramsay]

Used to think Who was crap. gave it a chance when my brother got the dvds..gotta say it grew on me. not the greatest show ever made but its still decent. although tbf i've just finished the Tennent years

[Shaun]

prepare yourself for a fall, Karl

Smith was good, but the writing was not.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Glenn

A very minor drop if any. I dont think a show like Doctor can ever lose its appeal. It reinvents itself. The 50th alone shows it appeal.



Steven Moffat with his poor casting? What are you talking about? The stories aren't bad if you compare them to the RTD days.

And the same Steven Moffat and his poor casting and rubbish stories helped take Doctor Who global. A feat RTD never achieved.

Doctor Who has always been a bit global though? And it's not a ratings giant in other countries it just does enough to get by, but Doctor Who could be a ratings hit in America and not lost 2 to 3 million viewers in the UK if Doctor Who actually grew up and actually not make it look like that a kids Sci Fi show is the only thing that the UK can make.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Redway

To be fair, America's an absolutely enormous country (especially in comparison to the UK), so its figures don't reflect what we get. And also there's been a general decline in viewership all over terrestrial television due to changing trends in catch-up, multichannels and all that.

It's the way our media has brainwashed people into thinking that it's a ratings giant in America for us though when Merlin and Downton Abbey (especially Downton Abbey) rate higher in America yet our media doesn't/didn't push for them at all.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Doctor Who has always been a bit global though? And it's not a ratings giant in other countries it just does enough to get by, but Doctor Who could be a ratings hit in America and not lost 2 to 3 million viewers in the UK if Doctor Who actually grew up and actually not make it look like that a kids Sci Fi show is the only thing that the UK can make.

You realise its a family show though right? And it hasn't always been a global hit. It's only recently gone global. In the context of the thread, it hadn't lost its appeal, it's going the complete opposite.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Glenn

You realise its a family show though right? And it hasn't always been a global hit. It's only recently gone global. In the context of the thread, it hadn't lost its appeal, it's going the complete opposite.

It's our only Sci-Fi show around it should be more mature than it is, and also it behaves far more like something out of CBBC than it does anything like Pirates Of The Caribbean.

And you've took this thread too literal, it only means what shows have lost appeal for you, but as I've already said earlier Doctor Who is losing appeal as it's not the ratings giant it once was.

[HD]

I've always thought of Dr Who as a "kids/teenage" show

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Doctor Who has always been a bit global though? And it's not a ratings giant in other countries it just does enough to get by, but Doctor Who could be a ratings hit in America and not lost 2 to 3 million viewers in the UK if Doctor Who actually grew up and actually not make it look like that a kids Sci Fi show is the only thing that the UK can make.

It's primarily a show for a kids/family audience. That's what it is, always has been and always will be.

You're asking for a completely different show. It was never meant to be a show that takes itself too seriously and aimed at a purely adult audience, it's Saturday teatime entertainment.

Originally Posted by Glenn

You realise its a family show though right? And it hasn't always been a global hit. It's only recently gone global. In the context of the thread, it hadn't lost its appeal, it's going the complete opposite.

It's always been shown around the world, it's not only recently gone global. Even then it's not some kind of huge hit, it's popular but nothing extraordinary.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

It's our only Sci-Fi show around it should be more mature than it is, and also it behaves far more like something out of CBBC than it does anything like Pirates Of The Caribbean.

And you've took this thread too literal, it only means what shows have lost appeal for you, but as I've already said earlier Doctor Who is losing appeal as it's not the ratings giant it once was.

What are you talking about? Since it returned in 2005 it's mostly been around the 6-8 million mark. It's still no different now.

The last episode at Christmas recorded over 11 million viewers. The 50th anniversary got around 12 million. So where is this loss you speak of?

[Good King Glennceslas]

Not to mention how much the 50th took in box office

http://variety.com/2013/film/news/do...ce-1200891239/

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

What are you talking about? Since it returned in 2005 it's mostly been around the 6-8 million mark. It's still no different now.

The last episode at Christmas recorded over 11 million viewers. The 50th anniversary got around 12 million. So where is this loss you speak of?

Actually away from the specials taking away recordings Matt Smith/Steven Moffat's Doctor Who has sometimes pulled in 5.5 million viewers, imo that's a drop especially considering the other two Doctors pulled in 7 to 8 million viewers.

[Jarrod]

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