[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

They must live close as they're visiting with his local MP?
lots of people have limited involvement for that timescale they may have had contact via telephone ...
I agree with the court action and think it's important if only to highlight the fact ATOS failed to take into consideration the opinion of his doctor.

MP s are contactable by phone too ! Making the time to visit the MP but no time or too far too visit their relative says so much to me

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

MP s are contactable by phone too ! Making the time to visit the MP but no time or too far too visit their relative says so much to me

Yes, it says they have to discuss failings within ATOS face to face.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Cherie

MP s are contactable by phone too ! Making the time to visit the MP but no time or too far too visit their relative says so much to me

You don't know enough about this family to be making such comments really though do you. All the info we have is his mother is a single parent and he has a sister, that's it.

You don't know what life they lead, all we do know though is his benefits were stopped when they 100% should not have been. He has been failed by the system and unfortunately ended up dead.

Poor guy.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

MP s are contactable by phone too ! Making the time to visit the MP but no time or too far too visit their relative says so much to me

Since the man was 44 years old then the parents might be too elderly, frail, have illnesses of their own. Without knowing the details or the families circumstances then it's pretty unfair to jump to conclusions and it also only states the family are meeting the MP it doesn't say where, the MP could be visiting them.

Money isn't even the issue, the fact that the government, the DWP and this ATOS bunch are continuously failing the sick and vulnerable in this country is the big problem here.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Josy

Since the man was 44 years old then the parents might be too elderly, frail, have illnesses of their own. Without knowing the details or the families circumstances then it's pretty unfair to jump to conclusions and it also only states the family are meeting the MP it doesn't say where, the MP could be visiting them.

Money isn't even the issue, the fact that the government, the DWP and this ATOS bunch are continuously failing the sick and vulnerable in this country is the big problem here.

How can you say money isn't an issue when the headline states he died due to loss of benefits? The press are making it into an issue about money when there really is so much more to this story, his food phobia being one of the glaringly obvious ones to me.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How can you say money isn't an issue when the headline states he died due to loss of benefits? The press are making it into an issue about money when there really is so much more to this story, his food phobia being one of the glaringly obvious ones to me.

Because benefits don't always have to mean money and nothing else Cherie, I said that because this is what you posted earlier in the thread..

it's a pass the buck world now, somehow the government are supposed to play all roles in peoples lives via cash payouts

Having his benefits stopped never just meant he had no cash, it also stopped his housing benefits and if he had still been receiving DLA then the social work department knowing he was vulnerable could have possibly sent home carers out to make sure he was safe, had things in to eat and if they would have seen the weight he was and reported it I'm pretty sure they could have got him signed into a hospital.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Josy

Because benefits don't always have to mean money and nothing else Cherie, I said that because this is what you posted earlier in the thread..



Having his benefits stopped never just meant he had no cash, it also stopped his housing benefits and if he had still been receiving DLA then the social work department knowing he was vulnerable could have possibly sent home carers out to make sure he was safe, had things in to eat and if they would have seen the weight he was and reported it I'm pretty sure they could have got him signed into a hospital.

yes I agree with all that Josy, but in this day you just can't expect the agencies to get it right, if you have a vulnerable or aged adult in your family you have to get stuck in to see that what should be happening is, there are so many box tickers in jobs with no ability to see beyond what they see as their job. I see alot of it in the School I work in, if parents are lax and don't chase things up the child can miss out on alot of help that is available to them. I wouldn't trust any agency to sort anything out, sad but true these days.