[daniel-lewis-1985]

Big Brother: Carnage!: Summer 2014

Its time to bring back freedom of speech and finally face all this racist, bullying bull**** and let it play out un edited and raw to the nation.
This concept is extreme but would surely produce the most controversial Civilian Big Brother in a decade.

Are Channel 5 brave enough to do it?

This is a long read but I promise you its a good one if I say so myself. I would love to hear feedback.

So here's the deal

Every housemate will have to live with someone who's values and beliefs in life are highly different to each other.

Wether it be religion, the colour of someone's skin or sexuality no subject should be off the table and it should be uncensored, every little nip slip, racist, religious, homophobic remark should all be left to play out without BB intervening. Nothing is taboo.

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Here's the casting idea

Lets turn things on their head.

Housemate 1: A devout immigrant muslim with a serious bigoted opnion towards the western worlds morals and habits/culture. Its time to see racist attitudes from both sides seeing as we never see white people racially abused when it happens everywhere.

Housemate 2: A white possible Christian girl who thinks immigrants are whats wrong with this country and has a very narrow minded opinion on the muslim community. She is also very bigoted. Lets see who wins in the ever lasting racist row.

Housemate 3: Something we have never seen before a gay guy who is heterophobic and will only associate with his own kind. He supports gay marriage and is passionate about campaigning gay rights. He has a chip on his shoulder and is as stubborn and argumentative as as hell.

Housemate 3/4: A boy and a girl who are very offended by gay people and think their lives are wrong/un natural. They absolutely disagree with gay marriage and rights.

Housemate 5: A homewrecker, someone who broke up a marriage.

Housemate 6: The person who was the victim in that marriage break up.

Housemate 7: A Bulgarin immigrant who is currently being accused of stealing our jobs.

Housemate 8: A man who has recently been made redundant and feels its to do with immigrants taking all the jobs. This man should be unemployed still and be very opinionated.

Housemate 9: A lesbian who loves pretty straight girls and is totally open about it. She has a potty mouth and talks non stop about sex.

Housemate 10: A pretty girl who has led a bit of a sheltered life, she has never met a lesbian in her life. She dislikes people who have had a lot of sexual encounters and wont tolerate repulsive sexual talk.

Housemate 11: A sexist who believes women should not be allowed to have the same rights as men.

Housemate 12: An extreme femmenist whos arch nemesis is any sexist man.

Housemate 13: Someone who comes from a strict amish background who has never had sex or drunk alcohol.

Housemate 14: A very seductive genuinely bisexual gorgeous party girl who loves nothing more than partying, sex and alcohol.

Housemate 15: A tattoed, chav who comes from a very harsh upbringing. She is not on the dole, she is a single mother and has to work her arse off to make ends meet.

Housemate 16: This is housemates 15th father who she hasn't seen since she was a toddler. He will be introduced on day 3 just as everyone is settling down ("Yeah Jackie") and she gets to decide if he becomes a housemate or gets her revenge by kicking him out on his arse come Fridays eviction.
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Could this bring BB back to an actual social experiment?

Yes this will cause alot of drama, offensive uncomfortable viewing but by the end of the series the housemates and the general public could learn a bit more about the subjects and watch them talk open and honestly about their feelings to resolve these issues instead of BB having to call the housemates involved to the diary room incase they are about to say something slightly offensive.

The Ofcom crew complaining at the first opportunity don't realise is that allowing the public to watch real issues happening can only do good as it will cause serious debates around the country and people could actually become more tolerant of people who are different from them and learn about different attitudes towards different cultures and serious issues. The constant complaints about racism/sexism ect is doing more harm than good we need it to play out so we can watch human nature and how good can come from bad situations.

Yes it would appear a manic cast from hell but as the show grows I think it could be one of the deepest darkest yet inspiring ones to date.

Go on Channel 5 just go for it, **** Ofcom and hope for the best from critics, these last 2 series have pushed the boundaries and with something so out there like this we could be looking at the first Channel 5 Civilian BB to average over 2 million.

This would be the only way to get BB back to the social experiment it once was aswell by casting people with real beliefs and issues.

So, whats your thoughts?

[Kate!]

I think it's too extreme and we'd see the first BB murder

[joe199998293]

I'd rather not see homophobia in the house.

[thesheriff443]

we will get more z list celebs with an agent,
the bully card is now so over used in bigbrother!.

they should put a real homeless person in there.

[Rob!]

This is the kind of thing we should be seeing - the whole point of BB is seeing people from different backgrounds' reaction to each other. I'd love a series like this

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by joe199998293

I'd rather not see homophobia in the house.

But it happens everyday in the real world.

Seeing someone being homophobic in the house would actually do wonders for gay rights on the outside and watching that person knocked down a peg or 2 would be compulsive to watch.

This idea isn't that far from BB5 where they used the same kind of casting technique it just shows how backwards the show has gone seeing as they wont let housemates in who have most of the above opinions.

Big Brother is constantly accused of being offensive, racist ect and we allways get that 1000 small group of Ofcom complainers who complain over things that really shouldn't cause anyone discomfort viewing.

Would be nice to show them what offensive behaviour really looks like the irritating little ****s also maybe once Big Brother finally faces its critics and shows actual homophobic, racist behaviour play out then we have a bar that is set and people will finally understand what it is and not have to look for it.

I think it would be a far more political house, the media attention would be back on it no doubt, there wouldn't really be a choice. It would be a social experiment at its rawest.

I don't think Channel 5 have the balls to do it even though anything that happens in the house is purely down to the housemates actions and does not represent the attitudes of Channel 5 or Endemol.

All Channel 5 need to do is put a disclaimer before every episode and they are pretty much covered.

Honestly can anyone else not see this being an amazing idea? lol

[BigBrotherGuy100]

i dont think any normal C5 series could beat BB14....

[Jordan.]

I can't be bothered reading all that but the secrets and lies theme was **** so they don't have to try hard.

[reece(:]

Might be entertaining but all it will give C5 is bad press

[Headie]

Never gonna happen. I like dramatic series but that series just sounds like it would be non-stop hatefulness, which isn't entertaining when it's happening 24/7.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Never gonna happen. I like dramatic series but that series just sounds like it would be non-stop hatefulness, which isn't entertaining when it's happening 24/7.

Not at all I think it would be interesting to see these people go at it hammer and tong but I also think that as time goes on unlikely friendships would form but that would only happen if Big Brother actually let the housemates say and do exactly what they want without fear of BB intervening.

The press could actually become very positive if it picks up on how Big Brother has gone from being just a tv show to an important social experiment again that has got the nation talking about issues that need to be addressed.

Over the last 7 years or so Britain has become pc to the point that its causing segregation and animosity between different groups as we are not allowed to talk openly about things making us frustrated and in fear of offending certain religions, race, sexualities and so on.

Big Brother is a very powerful platform and to have people actually openly discuss such taboo topics could really change the state of mind of millions of viewers.

This is how BB used to be back in its heyday remember so its sad to see this is seen such an outrageous idea now.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I can't be bothered reading all that but the secrets and lies theme was **** so they don't have to try hard.

No offence but it takes like 1 minute to read. Don't be so lazy and maybe you can contribute something interesting to the thread then.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Mods can I please add a poll to this.

2 options.

What do you think of the proposed changes?

Good idea
Bad idea

[T*]

Is this a joke?

[T*]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Mods can I please add a poll to this.

2 options.

What do you think of the proposed changes?

Good idea
Bad idea

Click thread tools at the top

[T*]

This is ridiculous. It would make BB suffer, and do you not remember what happened to bb on C4?

[Marsh.]

Top the secrets and lies theme? BB4 could do that.

I enjoyed last years series but the theme was barely present.

[T*]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Not at all I think it would be interesting to see these people go at it hammer and tong but I also think that as time goes on unlikely friendships would form but that would only happen if Big Brother actually let the housemates say and do exactly what they want without fear of BB intervening.

The press could actually become very positive if it picks up on how Big Brother has gone from being just a tv show to an important social experiment again that has got the nation talking about issues that need to be addressed.

Over the last 7 years or so Britain has become pc to the point that its causing segregation and animosity between different groups as we are not allowed to talk openly about things making us frustrated and in fear of offending certain religions, race, sexualities and so on.

Big Brother is a very powerful platform and to have people actually openly discuss such taboo topics could really change the state of mind of millions of viewers.

This is how BB used to be back in its heyday remember so its sad to see this is seen such an outrageous idea now.

Absolutely not. BB still controlled the house when it was first beginning and rolling in the viewers, shown by the ejection of Nasty Nick. Even if it was a lighter ruled , they didn't try to create situations or try to make fights happen etc.

[T*]

Also, CBB Belgium tried this and put a ex husband and wife in there, and guess what happened? The ex wife walked in less than 1 hour, making the least amount of time stayed by 1 hm in the world.

[Daniel.]

Anything can top secrets and lies thems

Michael was awful

[T*]

I still can't believe they wasted the secrets and lies title on the series, they could've saved to for a series that is secret story..

[Daniel.]

Hmm werent bb6, 7, 9 and most recently 13 classed as contriversial?

There has been lots of things that happened thats not pc, apart from the Emily ejection it hasnt been particularly less contriversial

[Apple202]

urm no it'd flop and be pulled in a week

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Anything can top secrets and lies thems

Michael was awful

It was a joke how it only lasted a week as well

[Daniel.]

And we didnt get to see Sallie relaxing without Michael etc

Tbh I'd be willing to sacrafice Dexter for Sallie