[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

seriously? you havent hear dof radical feminist groups demanding more women be represented on our notes? its made the bbc main news dozens of times.....a story which has had more bbc main news coverage than the tens of thousands who die of clots in nhs hospitals.....you may not see the direct link, there is direct competition every day over what makes the news.....for some reason this trivial feminist nonsense is seen as more important than matters of life and death by those radical liberals who control the news agendas....what chance do the disabled have eh?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

is he in a wheelchair?

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by the truth

seriously? you havent hear dof radical feminist groups demanding more women be represented on our notes? its made the bbc main news dozens of times.....a story which has had more bbc main news coverage than the tens of thousands who die of clots in nhs hospitals.....you may not see the direct link, there is direct competition every day over what makes the news.....for some reason this trivial feminist nonsense is seen as more important than matters of life and death by those radical liberals who control the news agendas....what chance do the disabled have eh?

The problems in the NHS are reported on news programmes on a regular basis and will continue to be, they are hardly ignored. Indeed if it weren't for the valable contribution of highly educated and skilled female doctors and nurses, it would be in a much worse state. You seem to blame women for all the ills of society - it really is becoming very boring, as it makes absolutely no sense.

Why shouldn't over 50% of the population of this country have a right to be represented on one of the nation's banknotes - it certainly deserves as much right to some airtime as anything else. There is nothing trivial about it as women bring in hugh amounts of money to our economy and deserve recogniton for it, why do you have such a problem with that?

You may consider female equality trivial but at least 50% of the population do not - you are in the minority. Many people consider religion trivial as it is based on belief rather than fact, unlike the contribution women make to society, the nhs and the success of this country. Religion has also been responsible for countless wars and the pointless deaths of millions, what a waste. Your rantings are just that - pointless, opinionated rantings.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

The problems in the NHS are reported on news programmes on a regular basis and will continue to be, they are hardly ignored. Indeed if it weren't for the valable contribution of highly educated and skilled female doctors and nurses, it would be in a much worse state. You seem to blame women for all the ills of society - it really is becoming very boring, as it makes absolutely no sense.

Why shouldn't over 50% of the population of this country have a right to be represented on one of the nation's banknotes - it certainly deserves as much right to some airtime as anything else. There is nothing trivial about it as women bring in hugh amounts of money to our economy and deserve recogniton for it, why do you have such a problem with that?

You may consider female equality trivial but at least 50% of the population do not - you are in the minority. Many people consider religion trivial as it is based on belief rather than fact, unlike the contribution women make to society, the nhs and the success of this country. Your rantings are just that - pointless, opinionated rantings.

its had more headlines than the deaths of 100s of thousands of innocents in nhs hospitals from undiagnosed blood clots that they developed whilst in hospital....so you think its right our news spends more time and resources reporting on women on bank notes than the avoidable DEATHS OF hundreds of thousands? you call that intelligent moral prioritising of issues?

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by the truth

its had more headlines than the deaths of 100s of thousands of innocents in nhs hospitals from undiagnosed blood clots that they developed whilst in hospital....so you think its right our news spends more time and resources reporting on women on bank notes than the avoidable DEATHS OF hundreds of thousands? you call that intelligent moral prioritising of issues?

How do you justify all the headlines and general airtime, wasted on religion then, a few headlines about banknotes wouldn't even touch that, not to mention the millions of deaths over the years in the name of religion?

Just think of the airtime we could give to all those supposed thousands dying from blood clots in nhs hospitals if we stopped reporting on any religious issues and conflicts.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Honestly do not know anything about this five pound note thing. Totally stumped me there

Just another dig at women and how he thinks too much time is given to female concerns. He is going to give himself a heart attack over it if he isn't careful.

[Marsh.]

I like your style kizzy.

[Marsh.]

The news hasn't spent more time and resources on that. I for one watch the news regularly and this thread is the first time I've heard about this bank note story.

So clearly, it's prominent to you because it's something you don't care about or actively hate. To the rest of the world it was one news story of many. And just like the many other news stories it has every right to be reported on.

Or maybe you watch too much rolling news.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

The news hasn't spent more time and resources on that. I for one watch the news regularly and this thread is the first time I've heard about this bank note story.

So clearly, it's prominent to you because it's something you don't care about or actively hate. To the rest of the world it was one news story of many. And just like the many other news stories it has every right to be reported on.

its one of many utterly trivial issues relating to feminist groups as well as the rights of the supposedly under represented black people on tv...I bring up the fact other groups are under represented and you couldnt care less. as for the rest of the world, who are you to speak for them? bbc news is a joke with a radical liberal agenda.....weve gotten so crazy now we spend more money
investigating the perversions of a dead dj 30 years ago than the deaths of abused patients happening NOW. you see no correlation I see every
correlation. only 5 or 6 stories make the news. blood clots deaths of tens of thousands barely ever makes the news. the perversions of jimmy saville make it almost daily. who decides on why that story should get more attention every day? which story affects the public more seriously?

of course the preventable deaths of hundreds of thousands isnt sexy news.....neither are disabled issues.

so why has no wheelchair ever entered the BB house? why are so few in soap operas ever? I seem to recall tanni grey thompson didnt even get a ramp when she won a few years ago? mercy were a stupid country

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

its one of many utterly trivial issues relating to feminist groups as well as the rights of the supposedly under represented black people on tv...I bring up the fact other groups are under represented and you couldnt care less. as for the rest of the world, who are you to speak for them? bbc news is a joke with a radical liberal agenda.....weve gotten so crazy now we spend more money
investigating the perversions of a dead dj 30 years ago than the deaths of abused patients happening NOW. you see no correlation I see every
correlation. only 5 or 6 stories make the news. blood clots deaths of tens of thousands barely ever makes the news. the perversions of jimmy saville make it almost daily. who decides on why that story should get more attention every day? which story affects the public more seriously?

of course the preventable deaths of hundreds of thousands isnt sexy news.....neither are disabled issues.

so why has no wheelchair ever entered the BB house? why are so few in soap operas ever? I seem to recall tanni grey thompson didnt even get a ramp when she won a few years ago? mercy were a stupid country

And here lies the problem. People simply aren't interested in hearing about blood clots and such when theres such things as the Saville scandal floating about. Its sad but true.

Scandal sells more than real life. Look at the ****ing madeleine mccann rubbish thats STILL in todays papers, despite being 7 (?) years ago and thousands of kids going missing after her with no mention on the news.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

And here lies the problem. People simply aren't interested in hearing about blood clots and such when theres such things as the Saville scandal floating about. Its sad but true.

Scandal sells more than real life. Look at the ****ing madeleine mccann rubbish thats STILL in todays papers, despite being 7 (?) years ago and thousands of kids going missing after her with no mention on the news.

bbc news shoudlnt be tabloid hysterical drivel. its always claimed to be better than that, sadly its standards slipped to the gutter years ago and Im right to point out that fact.

Id have had more respect for lenny henry if hed actually pointed out the fact the disabled are under represented on tv instead of plkaying the race card

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

bbc news shoudlnt be tabloid hysterical drivel. its always claimed to be better than that, sadly its standards slipped to the gutter years ago and Im right to point out that fact.

Id have had more respect for lenny henry if hed actually pointed out the fact the disabled are under represented on tv instead of plkaying the race card

It is, and has been for years though. Its totally biased in reporting about most things too.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

bbc news shoudlnt be tabloid hysterical drivel. its always claimed to be better than that, sadly its standards slipped to the gutter years ago and Im right to point out that fact.

Id have had more respect for lenny henry if hed actually pointed out the fact the disabled are under represented on tv instead of plkaying the race card

People are generally concerned about what affects THEM though. Thats just how the world works. Race affects him more than disability does, therefor to him, race is what he notices. Its a bit like how you seem to notice every little thing about women..its clearly a massive issue to you, whereas marsh claims not to have even noticed this story about bank notes on the news. I rarely watch news which is why I knew nothing of it...but I don't think its really fair to accuse him of lying about not noticing the apparent prevalence of that particular story

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

its one of many utterly trivial issues relating to feminist groups as well as the rights of the supposedly under represented black people on tv...I bring up the fact other groups are under represented and you couldnt care less. as for the rest of the world, who are you to speak for them? bbc news is a joke with a radical liberal agenda.....weve gotten so crazy now we spend more money
investigating the perversions of a dead dj 30 years ago than the deaths of abused patients happening NOW. you see no correlation I see every
correlation. only 5 or 6 stories make the news. blood clots deaths of tens of thousands barely ever makes the news. the perversions of jimmy saville make it almost daily. who decides on why that story should get more attention every day? which story affects the public more seriously?

How many updates are made to the Jimmy Saville case compared to the others? You've got to factor in how much new information is uncovered moving forward.

I never said I couldn't care less about other under represented groups.
I said that under represented disabled people doesn't undermine issues faced by other groups. It's not a competition and they all have a right. You are the one undermining other groups by claiming issues faced by black people is "trivial".

Who said I'm "speaking for the rest of the world"? What on earth are you talking about? That has no relevance to anything I've posted.

You're either completely ignoring my point or taking the piss.

Originally Posted by the truth

so why has no wheelchair ever entered the BB house? why are so few in soap operas ever? I seem to recall tanni grey thompson didnt even get a ramp when she won a few years ago? mercy were a stupid country

So someone should be brought into the BB House because they're in a wheelchair? Maybe all wheelchair bound people who auditioned weren't interesting enough people?

Disabled wise, plenty have been in the BB house. Why are you now differentiating between wheelchair users and other equally disabled people?

Also Coronation Street has one wheelchair user, why does there need to be more. It's a show that depicts the inhabitants of ONE street in the whole country.

How many more until they have hit the marker? One more? 10 more? What's the minimum requirement?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

The news hasn't spent more time and resources on that. I for one watch the news regularly and this thread is the first time I've heard about this bank note story.

So clearly, it's prominent to you because it's something you don't care about or actively hate. To the rest of the world it was one news story of many. And just like the many other news stories it has every right to be reported on.

Or maybe you watch too much rolling news.

I dont believe you. its been on the news loads of times.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

I dont believe you. its been on the news loads of times.

I don't care. It's not really the point.

Why I'd pretend about such an issue is beyond me.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I don't care. It's not really the point.

Why I'd pretend about such an issue is beyond me.

you say you watch all news and never seen this...that doesnt add up 1) either you miss a lot of news or 2) you watched it but didnt concentrate its been on endlessly with this trivial nonsense whilst massively more british news stories go ignored such as those Ive highlighted

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

you say you watch all news and never seen this...that doesnt add up

Well, I don't literally watch every minute of every news programme on TV nor do I read every word in every newspaper.

I watch the news regularly and I haven't seen it once.

[Kizzy]

The bank note thingy is Jane Austin getting put on a tenner I think.

[Vicky.]

Basically if the news only reported on the most serious (ie. death..by your reckoning) things happening in the world..every headline would be '500k people die in africa today'. Every story would be along the lines of that too..just featuring different third world countries, possibly with a big earthquake or flood somewhere thrown in now and again for good effect.

[Kizzy]

You haven't heard about the NHS failing vicky, you have heard about grossly underfunded mismanaged hospitals struggling.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You haven't heard about the NHS failing vicky, you have heard about grossly underfunded mismanaged hospitals struggling.

Well yeah but its dressed up by all the major news channels to be the failing NHS

[Mystic Mock]

Shouldn't people get cast on the show that are actually good at the job? Black, white, or hell even orange.

I don't agree with an ethnic group getting jobs just because of the colour of their skin, they have to actually be suited for the job imo.

[Jack_]

What's all this about casting more people in wheelchairs? Eh? You do know that you don't just have to be in a wheelchair to be considered disabled, right?

Have you ever watched the Paralympics, or para-sport? You'd realise the broad spectrum of disability then...and I think those people have been represented in Big Brother certainly and soaps to an extent. There should be more disabled people on TV and in the media than there are at the minute yes, but all this about people in wheelchairs is nonsense there's more to disability than a bloody wheelchair

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Eh? You do know that you don't just have to be in a wheelchair to be considered disabled, right?

The turn of conversation worried me too. Apparently the several disabled BB housemates don't count on his disabled radar because they don't use chairs.