[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Honestly do not know anything about this five pound note thing. Totally stumped me there

Just another dig at women and how he thinks too much time is given to female concerns. He is going to give himself a heart attack over it if he isn't careful.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

seriously? you havent hear dof radical feminist groups demanding more women be represented on our notes? its made the bbc main news dozens of times.....a story which has had more bbc main news coverage than the tens of thousands who die of clots in nhs hospitals.....you may not see the direct link, there is direct competition every day over what makes the news.....for some reason this trivial feminist nonsense is seen as more important than matters of life and death by those radical liberals who control the news agendas....what chance do the disabled have eh?

Nope...I actually know so little about notes that I thought the queen was on the majority of them until you said that and I googled..can't say its anything I have paid attention to in the past

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

seriously? you havent hear dof radical feminist groups demanding more women be represented on our notes? its made the bbc main news dozens of times.....a story which has had more bbc main news coverage than the tens of thousands who die of clots in nhs hospitals.....you may not see the direct link, there is direct competition every day over what makes the news.....for some reason this trivial feminist nonsense is seen as more important than matters of life and death by those radical liberals who control the news agendas....what chance do the disabled have eh?

That's like saying that because people are dying from easily curable illnesses in other parts of the world that we shouldn't dare complain about the level of medical care in our own country because it's still a million miles ahead of elsewhere.

That's not how things work and is incredibly simplistic.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

You make some valid points. My brother is disabled and I completely agree with some of what you say. But you don't half make it hard by throwing in a load of rubbish to balance it out.

everyting Ive said I back 100%. we brits are incapable of having a broader conversation that encompases several inter related subjects. we always resort to our default position of mockery and scorn. were a sad nation that hides behind an invisible blanket of superiority and intelligence. yet our political leaders spend most of their lives having a conversation about a conversation. already ive probably lost you. so lets keep it simple. the disabled are more under represented in every sector by an enormous distance and its gotten worse in recent years.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

That's like saying that because people are dying from easily curable illnesses in other parts of the world that we shouldn't dare complain about the level of medical care in our own country because it's still a million miles ahead of elsewhere.

That's not how things work and is incredibly simplistic.

no its not like saying that at all. one minute you accuse me of covering too many subjects and changing the subect now Im being too simplistic. either way your goal is to win a small argument with me, my goal is bigger much bigger. I want people to look at the bigger picture beyond the liberal news agenda that brainwashes so many. if that means you beta me in an arguemtn, so be it. Ill happily run naked across TIBB and make a total tw*t of myself. Id sacrifice myself at the alter of ;liberalism if it achieves the goal of forcing people to look at different angles

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Nope...I actually know so little about notes that I thought the queen was on the majority of them until you said that and I googled..can't say its anything I have paid attention to in the past

youre lucky you avoided it. if youre bored check it up , the story has been regurgitated endlesly....in the list of uks priorities id say this shouldnt make the top 1 million list of priorities. but heyho the equal opportunists only want it for their groups

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

everyting Ive said I back 100%. we brits are incapable of having a broader conversation that encompases several inter related subjects. we always resort to our default position of mockery and scorn. were a sad nation that hides behind an invisible blanket of superiority and intelligence. yet our political leaders spend most of their lives having a conversation about a conversation.

That's not the problem here. It's about you coming into a thread about ethnic representation and insisting it's not as important as disabled representation.

You're the one incapable of a conversation because everything is a competition. Only your views and the subjects you care about matter, sod everyone else.

Originally Posted by the truth

already ive probably lost you. so lets keep it simple. the disabled are more under represented in every sector by an enormous distance and its gotten worse in recent years.

I already understand this. Do not patronise me.
The point I'm making, which you yourself seem to have missed is that the disabled being more under represented does not cancel out those other groups of society.

You whinge about the disabled being ignored but are then going on to diminish the ignorance thrown at other sections of people.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

no its not like saying that at all. one minute you accuse me of covering too many subjects and changing the subect now Im being too simplistic. either way your goal is to win a small argument with me, my goal is bigger much bigger. I want people to look at the bigger picture beyond the liberal news agenda that brainwashes so many. if that means you beta me in an arguemtn, so be it. Ill happily run naked across TIBB and make a total tw*t of myself. Id sacrifice myself at the alter of ;liberalism if it achieves the goal of forcing people to look at different angles

No, I meant you're approaching this "bigger picture" with very simplistic views on it.

You're throwing very different thing in one pot and simplifying how they come together.

That's not how it works.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

No, I meant you're approaching this "bigger picture" with very simplistic views on it.

You're throwing very different thing in one pot and simplifying how they come together.

That's not how it works.

It is exactly how it works. you explain to me your view of how it works

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

youre lucky you avoided it. if youre bored check it up , the story has been regurgitated endlesly....in the list of uks priorities id say this shouldnt make the top 1 million list of priorities. but heyho the equal opportunists only want it for their groups

Just searched. Seems the problem was having NO women on bank notes after the fiver switched to Winston Churchill. Personally I still feel thats pretty trivial though...but different things matter to different people I guess

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petition...tish-banknotes

Never realised these change.org petitions actually worked...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

That's not the problem here. It's about you coming into a thread about ethnic representation and insisting it's not as important as disabled representation.

You're the one incapable of a conversation because everything is a competition. Only your views and the subjects you care about matter, sod everyone else.

Im changing the narrative. we are always talking about the worng things. black people are not under represented , especially not in tv soaps. endless other groups are under represented and Im right to draw attention to this fact. the fact is black groups and fmeinist groups have greater funding far greater and therefore have more power and wealth to afford to be able to get into the news and media. this pushes off other minorities off the front pages. im here on my lonesome trying to rebalance these issues. yet instead of fighting the power you fight me? one man alone giving up his spare time? thats like riding a tsunami to drown a japanese tourist....trying saving the tourist and fight against the tides

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

It is exactly how it works. you explain to me your view of how it works

Claiming this is more important than that. Tit for tat.

Everyone has different priorities and are well justified for having them.

It's not as simple as you dictating which piece of news is more important than another. The situation in Syria is more news worthy than underrepresentation of people in soap operas, but that doesn't mean the latter subject is not worth talking about.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Just searched. Seems the problem was having NO women on bank notes after the fiver switched to Winston Churchill. Personally I still feel thats pretty trivial though...but different things matter to different people I guess

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petition...tish-banknotes

Never realised these change.org petitions actually worked...

yep its hard more coverage than the deaths of thousands

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

seriously? you havent hear dof radical feminist groups demanding more women be represented on our notes? its made the bbc main news dozens of times.....a story which has had more bbc main news coverage than the tens of thousands who die of clots in nhs hospitals.....you may not see the direct link, there is direct competition every day over what makes the news.....for some reason this trivial feminist nonsense is seen as more important than matters of life and death by those radical liberals who control the news agendas....what chance do the disabled have eh?

[Marsh.]

I like your style kizzy.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

yep its hard more coverage than the deaths of thousands

So have loads of things though...thousands die every minute but we don't hear about it.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Claiming this is more important than that. Tit for tat.

Everyone has different priorities and are well justified for having them.

It's not as simple as you dictating which piece of news is more important than another. The situation in Syria is more news worthy than underrepresentation of people in soap operas, but that doesn't mean the latter subject is not worth talking about.

you have provided nothing that backs up your claims of you udnerstanding this as so complex a matter than Ive described. I feel ive contributed more to this thread and all youve tried to do is attack me instead of contributing. the under representation of the disabled in every single sector of society especially parliament is a disgrace. the lack of coverage highlighting ithis is even more disturbing.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Salman!

you're thinking about the poster who made a thread complaining about eastenders focusing too much on white characters, that was a month ago

No. It was one in here.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

So have loads of things though...thousands die every minute but we don't hear about it.

yeah were too bust talking about important stuff like women on bank notes, david beckhams hair cut kate middletons weight....were pathetic

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

is he in a wheelchair?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

you have provided nothing that backs up your claims of you udnerstanding this as so complex a matter than Ive described. I feel ive contributed more to this thread and all youve tried to do is attack me instead of contributing. the under representation of the disabled in every single sector of society especially parliament is a disgrace. the lack of coverage highlighting ithis is even more disturbing.

I've not attacked you at all. Don't make yourself a victim.

Back up my claims of understanding? I'm giving my opinion and comment on yours. Do I need quotes from David Cameron to verify my opinions?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

yeah were too bust talking about important stuff like women on bank notes, david beckhams hair cut kate middletons weight....were pathetic

You're too busy sat in your home, on your expensive computer, on a Big Brother forum when people on the other side of the world are starving to death.

You see how it works?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

You're too busy sat in your home, on your expensive computer, on a Big Brother forum when people on the other side of the world are starving to death.

You see how it works?

you tell me how you think it works. instead of innane riddles. everyone has choices and theres always an opportunity lost for everything we choose to do. you have systematiclaly failed to address any of my issues raised in this thread. instead youve chosen the easier route attatck the messenger not the message

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

yeah were too bust talking about important stuff like women on bank notes, david beckhams hair cut kate middletons weight....were pathetic

My point was more along the lines of pretty much everything thats on our news is trivial if you compare it to other things going on in the world. I mean, this thousands dying of blood clots thing that you keep going on about...many more thousands die of starvation in africa every minute. Under-representation of disabled people on tv...who cares..100 or so hate crimes are commited against the disabled everyday..you see where I am going with this?

The news just sells us what the viewers want basically (in my case I tend to not be interested in much on the news at all as its either doom and gloom, or things I dont care about at all most of the time ) or what they can spin into a 'shocking' story

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

you tell me how you think it works. instead of innane riddles. everyone has choices and theres always an opportunity lost for everything we choose to do. you have systematiclaly failed to address any of my issues raised in this thread. instead youve chosen the easier route attatck the messenger not the message

I'm not attacking anyone. I'm showing you the flaw in your logic.

We can't discuss trivial matters or anything because of this or that is as silly as us not being allowed to enjoy the luxuries we are fortunate to have because in another part of the world people are dying through not having the things that we are blessed to have.

Tit for tat doesn't work for anything. It certainly is not a competition. One issue does not cancel out another.

Just because disabled people face a challenge does not diminish the issues faced by ethnic minorities.

There is no riddle in what I'm saying. It's straight forward.