[lostalex]

Originally Posted by smeagol

There is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty though. if people were innocent until proven guilty they wouldn't have their civil rights and freedom taken away first . they wouldn't have people on remand. people woudn't end up in cells or handcuffed etc etc lol

famous people wouldn't be all over the news charged and judged before they even have a right to reply.

your always guilty until proved innocent always.

well that's an interesting point. so you are saying the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing is just lip service. kinda like the Queen being head of state but she has no actual power.

I disagree though, i think in the actual court room, the juries do take "innocent until proven guilty" seriously and they do factor that "reasonable doubt" thing into their decisions.

but if it is just lip service, should we do away with the whole innocent until proven guilty mantra?