[starry]

Yes I realise Arlie could have been a big target, but I don't think it was exactly obvious that Neda would target Allison over the gremlins. The shutting away of Neda meant no strategy talk was available. Also none of them knew back then it would be an eviction without even a veto, that made it way easier on the HoH. And Allison was closer to the figure on the HoH tiebreaker, it was just the transplanting of the stupid American rules where somebody way out can still win on the guess.

[Jack_]

It was obvious, has been for about a week and any feed watcher could tell you that (another reason why you should watch them). Firstly Allison was putting faith in a F4 deal with three people that had shunned her in their last alliance, put her at the bottom and were hours away from backdooring her, all of which she knew (and is why she used the Veto in the first place to give the other side power - then backed out of it idiotically) and secondly ever since she used her secret Veto Neda had been saying on the feeds all week that she found Allison shady, couldn't trust her and that she needed to be the next one to go.

There's no getting around this, getting rid of Arlie was an idiotic move for Allison and the Gremlins. They've all admitted it since too. And trusting Neda, Jon and Heather after what they had done and were about to do was an even more stupid move from Allison.

I wanted her to do well in this game but she has made silly decisions and aligned with the wrong people, there's no excuses.

[starry]

It's your interpretation that she was putting huge faith in them, she probably hoped to last a bit longer with them but I very much doubt she was under any illusion that she was part of their core group. You suck up to the HoH, that's the game you know, and Neda was the HoH. Allison knew that Rachelle and Sabrina had their own group that she would never split too. So she was really just hoping Adel would have some kind of sense eventually and ally with her. She didn't have many options and when you are without a core alliance (difficult when you come in late and alliances are formed) you just have to try and get along with everyone.

[Jack_]

It's not my interpretation at all, herself and the Gremlins were on board to vote Adel out out because it would have been 4 vs 2 in the HoH comp and Arlie would have remained the prime target for Jon/Neda/Heather, but then those three put a F4 deal to Allison and so she told the Gremlins she was flipping and thus they had no choice but to join her in voting Arlie out. That's not an interpretation, she trusted Jon/Neda not to put her up so took the risk of getting rid of the one person that would make their alliance have 4 people against 3. That's just stupid, there is no excusing it and all three of them have now said they regret the decision so I'm not sure why you're trying to argue it wasn't that detrimental.

And Sabrina was more than willing to pull Allison over to their side after she used her bloody Veto on her, that was kinda the point of the move...prove her loyalty to Sabrina, strengthen their side and keep Arlie so it's 4 vs 3...then she backed out of the power shift move she'd set up.

I agree she was on the back foot having come in late, but then you could argue being able to watch the houseguests for a week was a benefit also...not that she used that knowledge to her benefit but you know. I like her and wanted her to do well, but she made some fatal errors and the Arlie thing was the one that cost her the game.

[starry]

Originally Posted by Jack_

but then you could argue being able to watch the houseguests for a week was a benefit also...not that she used that knowledge to her benefit but you know.

Watching them isn't as good as HEARING them, and the sound was off most of the time wasn't it? I really don't think they were allowed to see much in that sense, only something like the Paul outburst and he was evicted soon after anyway. So no way did that in any way make up for coming in late.

Ultimately Arlie just wasn't trusted that much and that was the problem. They put some hope with Adel. But the crucial thing really was winning that HoH which she really tried to and very nearly did. That's the only way you can guarantee anything on the show and some luck is always involved when guessing some answers in a true/false answer competition.

[Samm]

I haven't watched since Ika was evicted

Has Kenny & Andrew gone has the fat ugly cow Sabrina gone has the mole Alison gone has the bore Rachael gone

[Jack_]

You should pick up where you left off, it got so much better after she left. The power shifted and you missed it all! Quit at the wrong time

I have really enjoyed this season, I have a feeling that might be a controversial view on here but I have, it comes close to season one for me

[starry]

Originally Posted by Sam <3

I haven't watched since Ika was evicted

Has Kenny & Andrew gone has the fat ugly cow Sabrina gone has the mole Alison gone has the bore Rachael gone

Allison wasn't a mole. I was so glad Ika went, just a shame Neda hasn't left yet.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by starry

Allison wasn't a mole. I was so glad Ika went, just a shame Neda hasn't left yet.

She's a bitch

Ika <33333333

[Vladimir]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I have really enjoyed this season, I have a feeling that might be a controversial view on here but I have, it comes close to season one for me

Me too. There haven't been any huge fights or meltdowns (which I love) but the power has shifted a few times and it's been constantly interesting.

[Jack_]

I agree!

Show time

[Jack_]

'DO YOU WANT GOOD TV??!?!?!?!' *shrieks* 'IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT!!!!!!!!!!'

the irony of that tho

[Jack_]

Adel's pointing in the speech still makes me LOL

[Jack_]

Now we've had Peter, Emmett and Jillian I think it's time for Gary to make his grand return to host a comp

[LikeABoatOnWater]

Is this season worth watching?

[Jack_]

Definitely

Did you see season one?

[Jack_]

Heather should have won that, took a Gremlin down so that Adel would have no other options than replacing them with Jon/Neda, then got the Gremlin she saved to vote Jon/Neda out because they'd obviously not have voted each other out. Perfect opportunity

[LikeABoatOnWater]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Definitely

Did you see season one?

Yeah, love it only reason i havent seen this one is because ive been traveling for the past few months. I thought people were saying it was ****?

[Jack_]

Very revealing chat Neda had with Jemmett, especially when she said she'd take Heather to the final two over Jon. That is promising, I wonder if anything has changed since then though since things on the feeds would suggest otherwise...I hope not though

Originally Posted by LikeABoatOnWater

Yeah, love it only reason i havent seen this one is because ive been traveling for the past few months. I thought people were saying it was ****?

It started off quite infuriatingly that's why, like a bunch of hateable people had the power but it flipped (and has flipped quite a few times since) and has since got a lot better. Season one was kinda a happy atmosphere sort of season and this one has been a stark contrast but personally I've really enjoyed it. It has been constantly entertaining, intriguing and interesting and the cast have been way more into the game than last year as well which has made it better too. There's some hateable people and really rootable people, kinda what you want. Plus some really standout crazy moments too

Definitely worth watching IMO, might be controversial on here but it comes close to season one for me

[Jack_]

#HeatherForHoH

plz plz plz

[Jack_]

Nutters playing Lily Allen - **** You

[lukee]

links ???

[Jack_]

^ have you been watching?

http://www.tvnutters.com/files/bbca.htm

[lukee]

yes

[Jack_]

Jury house VTs are baaaaaaack my favourite <3

Glad they're at least realising Jon has done **** all and Neda controls him, that bodes well for her to win if they're F2

The house is ew tho