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Crimson Dynamo · 26-05-2014, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Great post joey.... joeysteele for Prime Minister. And EU President.

No, his speeches would go on to long

Livia · 26-05-2014, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No, his speeches would go on to long

There is never a superfluous word in joey's posts.

joeysteele · 26-05-2014, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No, his speeches would go on to long

I'll do things my way and with respect you do yours, maybe I just have a bit more to say that's all.
No one forces you to read a single thing I post on here but while it is a forum and I am able to that,at the same time doing nothing wrong either,I am likely to continue.

I really fail to sse what your particular problem is with me anyway but that is fine.
However if I go on to long and I'd admit it is one of my kind of faults, just avoid my posts altogether,wer arely agree so I would guess that is the best option for you anyway with the fullest respect.

No need to be so rude at all LeatherTrumpet.

Crimson Dynamo · 26-05-2014, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'll do things my way and with respect you do yours, maybe I just have a bit more to say that's all.
No one forces you to read a single thing I post on here but while it is a forum and I am able to that,at the same time doing nothing wrong either,I am likely to continue.

I really fail to sse what your particular problem is with me anyway but that is fine.
However if I go on to long and I'd admit it is one of my kind of faults, just avoid my posts altogether,wer arely agree so I would guess that is the best option for you anyway with the fullest respect.

No need to be so rude at all LeatherTrumpet.

It was a joke joey you dont need to fall off your perch

Livia · 26-05-2014, 01:14 PM

Yeah, he was joking Joey... or he knows I'd duff him up.

joeysteele · 26-05-2014, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It was a joke joey you dont need to fall off your perch

My apologies then, I do take time to get some humour,please ignore my previous post.
Again my apologies.

Kizzy · 26-05-2014, 01:18 PM

Farage is a one trick pony... where are his policies on anything other than immigration? Does anyone know or care?
Yes tories are making a leap like rats from a sinking ship to them in droves but as far as I see it UKIP are a rudderless raft.

Crimson Dynamo · 26-05-2014, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

My apologies then, I do take time to get some humour,please ignore my previous post.
Again my apologies.

think nothing of it

and yes, i fear Livia

joeysteele · 26-05-2014, 01:34 PM

I accept is a really strong showing for UKIP to top the results in these elections.
However,take into account the massive publicity UKIP had for weeks before them plus the releasing of the increased immigration figures on polling day too.

Factors which are not likely to be there in 2015.
Finally, there is in fact only just over 3.5% difference between UKIP in first place and the Conservatives in 3rd.
A small bit of movement of around just 2% and anyone of them could have topped this poll.

arista · 26-05-2014, 03:52 PM

Yes Clegg you Fecking Eyes have water in them
but talk Less - your like a robot.

Sign Of The Times

arista · 26-05-2014, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Farage is a one trick pony... where are his policies on anything other than immigration? Does anyone know or care?
Yes tories are making a leap like rats from a sinking ship to them in droves but as far as I see it UKIP are a rudderless raft.

Yes but he is changing fast
and he connects with Labour Voters

Thats a Good Thing

26-05-2014, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes Clegg you Fecking Eyes have water in them
but talk Less - your like a robot.

Sign Of The Times

Looks like a bit of redeye from a few hits on some westminster 'omegrown.

Kizzy · 26-05-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes but he is changing fast
and he connects with Labour Voters

Thats a Good Thing

No I don't think so, old conservative voters are now voting UKIP and all those who were mugged off by lib dem have gone back to labour.

Livia · 26-05-2014, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes but he is changing fast
and he connects with Labour Voters

Thats a Good Thing

There's a lot of denial about who's voting for UKIP. The important thing for them is that they're connecting with people who actually get out and vote. The turnout for the Euro election was what, 35%? So that's around 65% of people really don't think it affects them, or they just can't be bothered. He's engaging people who vote from a variety of parties, mainly Conservative... but not exclusively.

joeysteele · 26-05-2014, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes but he is changing fast
and he connects with Labour Voters

Thats a Good Thing

I really don't see UKIP as a good thing in any sense as to politics.
Their social policies that we know of are unacceptable to me, their gradually unearthing views as to healthcare and the NHS are extremely worrying.

The only thing I do hope is that Labour pressure Ed Miliband to agree to a referendum. That is the only way that the EU can be debated but not so prominantly in the 2015 election.

Ed Miliband should if he wins in 2015,just as any PM who takes that office should, also negotiate for reform and a better 'deal' for the UK from the EU.
That should be the norm for any PM in govt.

Unless that heat as to the EU is removed from the 2015 campaign then all there is going to be are endless tearing apart of David Cameron's and Ed Miliband's policy as to re-negotiation and reform of the EU,with UKIP letting them get on with it and wringing their hands with glee in the background.

In the event of UKIP winning seats of any quantity,(in the midst of Lib Dems woes), and having any holding of the balance of power,then deals will have to be done and demands met.
The thought of the Conservatives or anyone else allowing any implementation of UKIP's social policies is near unthinkable.
God forbid that ever comes to fruition.

joeysteele · 26-05-2014, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

There's a lot of denial about who's voting for UKIP. The important thing for them is that they're connecting with people who actually get out and vote. The turnout for the Euro election was what, 35%? So that's around 65% of people really don't think it affects them, or they just can't be bothered. He's engaging people who vote from a variety of parties, mainly Conservative... but not exclusively.

It is really odd Livia, today I was talking to some former student friends who were Lib Dems but voted UKIP last week.
They said they did so because it seemed everyone else was likely to.
These friends want to be in the EU,would not vote in a EU referendum and have no ideas as to UKIP's other policies.

I just don't get it.

arista · 26-05-2014, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

No I don't think so, old conservative voters are now voting UKIP and all those who were mugged off by lib dem have gone back to labour.

Typical of you to not have the Facts.

We know about Conservative going UKIP

But this time UP NORTH
in Labour only areas
UKIP got 8 on the council.

FACT

Kizzy · 26-05-2014, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

It is really odd Livia, today I was talking to some former student friends who were Lib Dems but voted UKIP last week.
They said they did so because it seemed everyone else was likely to.
These friends want to be in the EU,would not vote in a EU referendum and have no ideas as to UKIP's other policies.

I just don't get it.

Nobody does, and what's more I would say if they did they definitely wouldn't consider voting for them.
It was prob down to this daft idea of a protest vote that he did anyway, as someone said the other day a decent protest vote would be for the greens... but UKIP?!

arista · 26-05-2014, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.

Looks like a bit of redeye from a few hits on some westminster 'omegrown.

Watch it on news
Its Water

He says nothing new

Boring Git he is

Jack_ · 26-05-2014, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

No I don't think so, old conservative voters are now voting UKIP and all those who were mugged off by lib dem have gone back to labour.

I don't think that's true, Farage has conned a lot of the working class electorate into believing his anti-establishment, 'we're sticking up for the working man' nonsense and it's working. This all despite the fact he's a privately educated ex-businessman and his parties policies are anything but favourable for the working class. It's scary

One of my friends parents is a socialist and a Green/Labour voter, hates the Tories but voted UKIP on Thursday as part of this 'protest'. It's awful

arista · 26-05-2014, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

I don't think that's true, Farage has conned a lot of the working class electorate into believing his anti-establishment, 'we're sticking up for the working man' nonsense and it's working. This all despite the fact he's a privately educated ex-businessman and his parties policies are anything but favourable for the working class. It's scary

One of my friends parents is a socialist and a Green/Labour voter, hates the Tories but voted UKIP on Thursday as part of this 'protest'. It's awful

Yes Jack
more Wise than Kizzy