[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well as long as we get free speech on the internet that's ok,and what a joke that is,you don't even get that on here,anyway not being dragged into this by people who don't understand so enjoy being internet warriors.I think the family have suffered enough without scum like this getting their rocks off at it.

I don't understand how you can think the resources wasted for this case are worth it. Don't you think they would be better used to prevent crimes that actually harms people?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The price of Freedom of Speech is that you'll sometimes hear things you don't want to hear, the price of a free internet is that some people use it for nasty purposes. Trolls like this person are an acceptable price for an internet free of censorship.

I'm sure the Bulger family have come up against all sorts since James died lots of good, lots of not so good people if it were me and i had lost a child in that way i would take no chances, pretty sure they have been told to report anything of this nature.

[michael21]

some people are stick in the head

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jessica‪

I don't understand how you can think the resources wasted for this case are worth it. Don't you think they would be better used to prevent crimes that actually harms people?

Then I wont explain.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Jessica‪

I don't understand how you can think the resources wasted for this case are worth it. Don't you think they would be better used to prevent crimes that actually harms people?

This.

It's a joke in itself.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well as long as we get free speech on the internet that's ok,and what a joke that is,you don't even get that on here,anyway not being dragged into this by people who don't understand so enjoy being internet warriors.I think the family have suffered enough without scum like this getting their rocks off at it.

You don't understand, there's rules on every site but that doesn't mean you'll get arrested if you get into an argument with someone on Tibb. Twitter shouldn't be policed, Twitter's mods should ultimately do a better job of culling the troll accounts. It shouldn't be something that we waste Police time and resources on.

I cannot stand people that are so willing to throw away their freedoms for insignificant reasons. Trolls are a vocal minority and chances are that Jamie Bulger's mother has received more love from people and help for her causes than she has abuse from trolls. Allow the internet to be censored and policed and eventually it will end up affecting everyone.

This troll is insignificant, this whole incident as a whole is ultimately insignificant. Trolls look for a reaction, if you block them and don't give them one then they'll get bored. This sad old man is probably chuffed that he's been given some attention.

[smeagol]

is there any reason why that family get so much hassel from people. isit connected to the kids who done it or something. i find it very strange.

That guy is so doomed they even printed his addtess not to hard to know who it is.
very sick and very strange some people

[Kazanne]

Oh,I understand more than you know,lets leave it there shall we?

[Glenn.]

Maybe we should.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh,I understand more than you know,lets leave it there shall we?

Not good enough, this is serious debates so debate away. Don't be so patronising to mask the fact that you don't have a counter argument.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh,I understand more than you know,lets leave it there shall we?

What more do you know than anyone else? Why does what you know make this any more of a crime than it seems to be? Even if you were the child's mother I don't believe it is a reason to think that someone trolling on twitter is a crime.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If someone made a joke about Jamie Bulger in real life would they be arrested? No they wouldn't so the idea of police devoting time and resources to go after an arsehole who posted some mean comments on Twitter is an outrage. Are there no other crimes that need investigating or is Sussex some sort of crime free haven that the police have resorted to becoming Twitter Mods for something to do?

It's easy enough to block trolls on Twitter so the thought of getting the Police involved over some hurtful comments is ludicrous. It's a slippery slope that's inevitably going to lead to censorship.

I'm inclined to agree with you on this: I've been an internet / forum user since the days of AOL 3.0 (around 1997) and I think the way the 'net has gone in the last 5 or 6 years is nothing short of a tragedy. What was once mainly a collection of small to medium sized forums owned by individuals or small numbers of individuals, and was a haven of anonymity and true freedom of speech and expression, was completely taken over by huge corporate entities like Facebook, YouTube et al., flooded by the masses, at this point has been completely consumerised, and over the last couple of years, censorship has raised its' ugly mug.

There have always been trolls and there has always been ugliness. And it's always been worth it to hold on to that little glimmer of freedom in a world that's already dominated by governments and authorities.

The sheer number of websites now blocked by UK ISPs is horrifying. The first time I encountered a "site blocked by ISP" landing page (piratebay, for the record ), my heart genuinely just... sank. Nothing to do with the block - they're so easy to circumvent it's actually painful - but just because the block exists, and what that means. What the internet once was is gone. What it's been replaced by is a monstrosity.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You don't understand, there's rules on every site but that doesn't mean you'll get arrested if you get into an argument with someone on Tibb. Twitter shouldn't be policed, Twitter's mods should ultimately do a better job of culling the troll accounts. It shouldn't be something that we waste Police time and resources on.

I cannot stand people that are so willing to throw away their freedoms for insignificant reasons. Trolls are a vocal minority and chances are that Jamie Bulger's mother has received more love from people and help for her causes than she has abuse from trolls. Allow the internet to be censored and policed and eventually it will end up affecting everyone.

This troll is insignificant, this whole incident as a whole is ultimately insignificant. Trolls look for a reaction, if you block them and don't give them one then they'll get bored. This sad old man is probably chuffed that he's been given some attention.

tell some one on tibb that you are going to kill them and you will have the police knocking on your door. and you will be arrested.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

tell some one on tibb that you are going to kill them and you will have the police knocking on your door. and you will be arrested.

It's been said on TiBB many times, also many people have told other members to die.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Jessica‪

It's been said on TiBB many times, also many people have told other members to die.

telling someone to die is not the same as saying you are going to kill them.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

telling someone to die is not the same as saying you are going to kill them.

Members have said they are going to kill others, I'm sure I've seen it once or twice.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

tell some one on tibb that you are going to kill them and you will have the police knocking on your door. and you will be arrested.

...and unless there was any reason to believe that the threat was genuine, that will have been a complete waste of police time and resources. In fact, if the threat is clearly just "hot air", I doubt there'd even be an arrest. You're talking a slap on the wrists at most.

It's also not as easy to track someone down from an anonymous screen name with no other information as you'd think... unless the user had linked to their personal details / facebook or twitter accounts, the police probably wouldn't even bother tracing it.

[smeagol]

i dont beleive in internet policing. they have already gone too far. with people being arrested and sent to prison for silly jokes on facebook. one guy got 2 years for a joke thats more than a rapist.

but saying that ,things as sick as this incident the people need to be stopped as its not just silly trolling its evil and harmful . only matters that bad should be acted upon. anything else people threating to kill eachother or silly jokes or one off remarks no way. happens everyday.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What a waste of time and police resources. The fact that Taxpayer money was used to go slap a twitter troll on the wrist is about as offensive as anything the troll said.

Thank you!! What he did is awful but getting the police involved just seems excessive and pointless. Site admins should deal with mess like this.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

tell some one on tibb that you are going to kill them and will have the police knocking on your door. and you will be arrested.

Except that would never happen. We've had death threats before and they've always been empty baseless remarks that we've swiftly deleted and dealt with. Getting the police involved with something as insignificant as that is ridiculous.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Jessica‪

Members have said they are going to kill others, I'm sure I've seen it once or twice.

one the mods would remove it and you would be banned.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

one the mods would remove it and you would be banned.

I haven't said mods wouldn't remove it. I've never heard of someone being arrested for it though, so you are wrong.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Except that would never happen. We've had death threats before and they've always been empty baseless remarks that we've swiftly deleted and dealt with. Getting the police involved with something as insignificant as that is ridiculous.

if you post that you are going to kill me and I report it to the police, they will investigate it.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Jessica‪

I haven't said mods wouldn't remove it. I've never heard of someone being arrested for it though, so you are wrong.

no you are wrong.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

if you post that you are going to kill me and I report it to the police, they will investigate it.

They'll say they investigated it but ultimately they'll do nothing if there's no basis to the threat.