[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Has VTS made a difference to any series?

It does in the celebrity editions for sure, regular? Not so much. Tashie, Rebeckah, Heaven, Anton, Caroline, Victoria, Benedict etc all went with VTS

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Germyle

not really fussed, we just need a great set of housemates to make the entertainment last

This if all the housemates are entertaining it shouldn't really matter who goes.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jake.

It does in the celebrity editions for sure, regular? Not so much. Tashie, Rebeckah, Heaven, Anton, Caroline, Victoria, Benedict etc all went with VTS

I couldn't stand to watch BB12 passed 2 or 3 weeks so I don't know.

But yeah, it's been fine for me for years with VTE, doesn't make a difference to me.

But then maybe it's because I don't crave for the Sallie's and Rebeckah's to stay.

[Nerd]

They should take a leaf out of Big Brother Finland, and have both VTE and VTS. The votes are then combined and the person with the lowest votes to save after deduction is evicted. That way, contestants that are both popular yet annoying may stand a chance of staying for longer in the house.

[Black Dagger]

They just undo their hard work, so ****ing incompetent. Already put a dampner on the series for me and it's not even started.

I wouldn't be annoyed if it was VTE for the CBB's but they clearly value that more by making sure their $$$$ signings stay in for the full duration, get ****ed.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yayyyyyyyyyy

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

So, people champion the C4 days as the best and always want BB to return to being C4-esque ... but there's outrage at VTE, the format used on C4?

My only issue is that they keep changing it and just expect people to go with it. The new Marcus tagline should be "What's the format? We can't DECIIIIDE!"

The reason C4 series were good is because they always picked good housemates. In C5 series there are more dull quiet ones in the cast than loud, entertaining ones and they only survived with Vore To Evict.

Last year was good but IMO it would've been even better with VTS cos Sallie would've been better than Dexter and been saved and Sam might've gone home as well

[Black Dagger]

Oh lol I didn't even read the last page.

Jack

[Black Dagger]

Gina and Dexter only managed to survive for so long in BB because somebody else turned into thunderkuhnt of the week. I don't trust them to keep my favourites in for that long again.

[Headie]

Hopefully casual viewers will assume they're voting to save like they were during the celeb versions and then the dullards will pick up a few votes to evict.

[Samm]

Thinking about idc now

They both have there negatives and Positives, VTS is good because you can save your favourite and bores are less likely too go. The negative is the bad people from the series gets saved like Anton and Conor and the first few weeks of BB12 all the good housemates got evicted with VTS and Lydia, Benedict and shievonne all went with VTS

VTE is bad because bores are most likely to stay and good housemates to go but if you look back not all the good housemates got evicted so early with VTE in the C4 days.

[Marsh.]

It all depends on who finds what entertaining so they're never going to please everyone. No matter who's evicted, someone will be ecstatic, someone will be pissed and no matter who's saved, someone will be ecstatic, someone will be pissed.

[andybigbro]

I don't mind Vote to evict
All channel 4 was vote to evict and I love channel 4 bb

[MrMinaj]

So ****ing stupid seriously!! What do they have to gain from this ???

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MrMinaj

So ****ing stupid seriously!! What do they have to gain from this ???

What they do every year? One eviction a week.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Thinking about idc now

They both have there negatives and Positives, VTS is good because you can save your favourite and bores are less likely too go. The negative is the bad people from the series gets saved like Anton and Conor and the first few weeks of BB12 all the good housemates got evicted with VTS and Lydia, Benedict and shievonne all went with VTS

VTE is bad because bores are most likely to stay and good housemates to go but if you look back not all the good housemates got evicted so early with VTE in the C4 days.

But they were all head-to-heads though, so it basically became a reverse Vote To Evict. They definitely would've gone in a VTE, so a VTS softened the margin for them a little.

There are literally no reasons why VTE is better than VTS, other than possibly money profit? But even then, people would rather vote to save their favourites than vote to evict people they feel a bit meh towards.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Hayden

But they were all head-to-heads though, so it basically became a reverse Vote To Evict. They definitely would've gone in a VTE, so a VTS softened the margin for them a little.

There are literally no reasons why VTE is better than VTS, other than possibly money profit? But even then, people would rather vote to save their favourites than vote to evict people they feel a bit meh towards.

Still BB6 had VTE

If they get a good cast then it won't matter, This hasn't destroyed my hope for the series tbh The house has saved it so far

[Headie]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Still BB6 had VTE

If they get a good cast then it won't matter, This hasn't destroyed my hope for the series tbh The house has saved it so far

But BB6 cast was literally perfection (minus Eugene and Anthony, lol @ them being Top 2 tbh) and C5 usually cast more fence-sitting housemates than they do entertaining ones, so VTE only works when literally the whole cast is entertaining and there will be a loss to the series no matter who is up.

[joeysteele]

I hate vote to evict, this will certainly ruin BB again for me this series then. Too many really good housemates go with vote to evict in my opinion.

[Samm]

I just find it weird when people saying the series is ruined when it hasn't started

[Jamesy]

Maybe they're having it as VTE as it actually worked out quite well last year? (Not counting Sallie as she would have been gone soon either way). Admittedly there were a lot of twists last year but VTE didn't damage the series.

VTE was used on every civilian C4 series too and everyone jizzes over those days...

[Loukas]

'unless otherwise directed'

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Loukas

'unless otherwise directed'

'unless we need to change the rules to suit us'

[Headie]

Me IRL

[joeysteele]

It won't ruin the series,I accept that, I said it would ruin the series for me personally watching.
It is spot on too as Jamesy said that C4 always had vote to evict, I didn't like vote to evict then,it also seemed most people watching would have preferred vote to save as a big cheer went up overall when on C5 it was made vote to save.

It is way too easy to organise the voting out of one housemate under vote to evict who may actually be one the very best housemates too.
With vote to save,were they to ensure at least 4 are up each eviction,then it is much harder to target a housemate to get them out.

I prefer that and so with vote to evict I expect to see good housemates fall and less quality housemates stay,that then spoils BB for me.