[Headie]

Originally Posted by Josy

Why on earth would anyone spend time watching an entire season of something they don't enjoy or like? it's a ridiculous suggestion.

People know what they like and that's that, you have no right at all to tell them otherwise.

No one told anyone to 'go watch a whole season of BBUS'...

It's just that with BBUS (and many other shows tbh) you have to watch the first few episodes of a season that has had really good reviews and then see if you like it, instead of just dismissing it off straight away and criticising it when you've never tried to watch it or go into it with the mindset that you are going to dislike it and that's that.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

No one told anyone to 'go watch a whole season of BBUS'...

It's just that with BBUS (and many other shows tbh) you have to watch the first few episodes of a season that has had really good reviews and then see if you like it, instead of just dismissing it off straight away and criticising it when you've never tried to watch it or go into it with the mindset that you are going to dislike it and that's that.

Dear god.

Yes. Yes they did. Go have another read.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't care if you think it's unfair though, that's my opinion....

LOL clearly you've reached the point where you're no longer willing to have a discussion about BBUK bring BBUS rules into the show to implement 'power' into the show, so I'll just leave it there then (although I was quite enjoying the debate tbh, since it is a discussion board after all).

[Jack_]

Because there are SO many different elements to such a huge format that you could never properly learn anything about the show by watching 'bits and bobs'. Maybe an entire season was a stretch, but certainly something like ten episodes. If you know what a show is about and how it works then you can sufficiently decide whether it's good or not or whether you like it or not, I don't see how anyone can judge something they basically know nothing about. You can argue that you don't want our format to change or that you're not interested in trying out other formats sure, but to criticise a format you've never seen is just dismissive and and well unfair seeing as you can't possibly know enough about it

Again, I've not seen enough of BBAUS (and I don't really plan to, public voting formats aren't for me anymore unless it's our version) but I wouldn't sit here and say 'ew no it's crap' because I simply don't know enough about it? I know how the nominations process works but that's it, how could I judge something I've not seen enough of? I just don't comment on it

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Hayden

No offense but have you even watched the American version? The format/concept of it is much better when you give it a go. Dismissing it before even attempting to watch it or get into it is kinda stupid :/

I used to dismiss it too.. until I gave it a watch last summer and it was amazing. I hadn't been gripped in a bb series in ages, and the funniest thing is BB15USA is actually considered a bad series which says a lot (I disagree with that btw).

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

LOL clearly you've reached the point where you're no longer willing to have a discussion about BBUK bring BBUS rules into the show to implement 'power' into the show, so I'll just leave it there then (although I was quite enjoying the debate tbh, since it is a discussion board after all).

There is no debate though Hayden it's just yourself and Jack basically saying anyone that disagrees with you about BBUS hasn't given it a chance it's the same old comments over and over.

If I don't like BBUS then why would I want them to incorporate any of in our BB, it's not even the BBUS thing that I dislike its the HoH stuff and power of veto and all that, I just don't like it.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I don't feel like anyone can sufficiently judge another version of Big Brother unless they've seen a whole season tbh

Originally Posted by Josy

Dear god.

Yes. Yes they did. Go have another read.

Where does that translate to 'Oi Josy, go watch all 30 episodes of BBUS now'? He said that, in his opinion, no one can truly know whether they like a show or not unless they've seen a whole season. But you feel otherwise, and I also feel otherwise too (watching a whole season is a bit excessive if you clearly aren't enjoying the first few eps).

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

I used to dismiss it too.. until I gave it a watch last summer and it was amazing.

Me too, as I said these examples are exact proof that you shouldn't judge something until you've properly given it a go

I slated it for years having never watched a single minute of it, and now look how much I champion it

I'd actually be willing to bet that if everyone on here who watched BBUK gave it a go, 8/10 of them would enjoy it. Maybe not prefer it to BBUK, but certainly enjoy it and feel as if they'd given it unfair criticism or dismissal

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Where does that translate to 'Oi Josy, go watch all 30 episodes of BBUS now'? He said that, in his opinion, no one can truly know whether they like a show or not unless they've seen a whole season. But you feel otherwise, and I also feel otherwise too (watching a whole season is a bit excessive if you clearly aren't enjoying the first few eps).

It says in the post you quoted? Jack doesn't think anyone can judge if they haven't watched a whole season.

Well I haven't watched an entire season and I can and do judge..

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Me too, as I said these examples are exact proof that you shouldn't judge something until you've properly given it a go

I slated it for years having never watched a single minute of it, and now look how much I champion it

I'd actually be willing to bet that if everyone on here who watched BBUK gave it a go, 8/10 of them would enjoy it. Maybe not prefer it to BBUK, but certainly enjoy it and feel as if they'd given it unfair criticism or dismissal

Exactly
y'all are missing out.

[Jack_]

I've just retracted the entire season comment? Little clips here and there though is certainly not enough to form a well rounded opinion of any show

[Marsh.]

Well, regardless, I don't think we should adopt their system. It is what makes all of the versions different.

I mean, I know in the other thread I said I wouldn't mind us adopting BBAUS nominations points system, but overall it's all of these differences that make foreign versions worth watching.

Otherwise they'd all be carbon copies.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well, regardless, I don't think we should adopt their system. It is what makes all of the versions different.

I mean, I know in the other thread I said I wouldn't mind us adopting BBAUS nominations points system, but overall it's all of these differences that make foreign versions worth watching.

Otherwise they'd all be carbon copies.

I agree with this.

I have nothing else to say about BBUS if I did I would head to the BBUS forums.

[Samm]

I wouldn't mind a bit of US in the show, but don't make it full US format I like BB more as a reality show than a Game show

Here's what I would love

If there was a HoH room in the house and there was a HoH competition on Saturday and who ever won wouldn't be able to be up for that week and they could nominate one Housemate for eviction this is how it would work they can only talk about nominations if they are in the HoH so the HoH can invite them in, so one housemate is up and then the rest of the house nominates on Monday and the ONE (Two or more etc if more than one HM has the highest vote) housemate that has the most votes it up against the housemates who the HoH nominated

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Josy

It says in the post you quoted? Jack doesn't think anyone can judge if they haven't watched a whole season.

Well I haven't watched an entire season and I can and do judge..

Yeah, but he says that he thinks that people can't judge it properly without watching it all. He never said his word was gospel, or that everyone should go and watch full seasons this instant. He said that, in his opinion, he views people who haven't seen full seasons as people who haven't given it a go. Just like you see people who watch bits and bobs as able to make their minds up about the show instantly. It's just difference in opinion, he never told you to go watch a full season.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well, regardless, I don't think we should adopt their system. It is what makes all of the versions different.

I mean, I know in the other thread I said I wouldn't mind us adopting BBAUS nominations points system, but overall it's all of these differences that make foreign versions worth watching.

Otherwise they'd all be carbon copies.

Nor do I. I love that I'm able to watch BBUK and BBUSA and it feels like I'm watching two different shows but with the same concept and entertainment values <3 I just think it would be good for BBUK to try something a little different and implement little features of BBUS into BBUK, without actually taking away crucial parts of BBUK that have become something of a tradition.

BBUS tried our format for their first series, and even though it was getting good ratings, they still tried something new the next season and it became even more successful.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well, regardless, I don't think we should adopt their system. It is what makes all of the versions different.

I mean, I know in the other thread I said I wouldn't mind us adopting BBAUS nominations points system, but overall it's all of these differences that make foreign versions worth watching.

Otherwise they'd all be carbon copies.

I get what you're saying but this thread was asking what the power may be about, this entire series is going to have a power theme so now more than ever people who like BBUS are going to be either interested to see whether BBUK is going to adopt some elements and/or are going to hope we adopt some of their features. If ever there was a time to do it, it would be in a series that has the theme 'Power Trip'

I'd like them to trial the US format for one series. It's never going to happen but since the theme has been announced it's not surprising these suggestions have been popping up. I'm not sure what other forms of power other people would want to be honest? If it's anything to do with rationing food it will be seriously lame and simple powers like choosing one nominee does not turn this into the game that they're suggesting it will be, so I'm really not sure what the power could be or if it'll be anything really that necessary

[Marsh.]

Oh, I know what the thread's about. I wasn't telling you to shut up.

I just meant we shouldn't adopt their system. Features from them maybe but not the whole HOH concept.

[Jack_]

I'm certainly willing to compromise on the implementation of a US format, I've said that many times on here and Big Brother Canada has in its first two seasons adapted their format and effectively made their own version in its own right with more public involvement. I accept that the public need to be involved in the UK and I don't really see that as a bad thing (well, I do, but if it were limited it'd be better), I just think we should take some ideas from the US

My idea for a compromised format has always been something like:

HoH competition, the winner nominates three housemates
Power of Veto competition. Everyone takes part, if a nominee is saved then the HoH names a replacement
The public saves one of the nominees and then the house votes to evict one of the remaining two
Last six housemates evicted make up the jury along with the UK being the 7th jury vote to decide the winner out of the final two

The public vote could even come in the form of letting them choose the HoH each week, which would be even more control. And as Sam suggested in a post above, I would even be open to a format where the HoH nominates one person and then the rest of the house nominate as normal but personally I've become really tired of BBUK nominations and I don't get why people fawn over them. They're almost never funny anymore, the reasons are crap and they manipulate the results all of the time. You need a cast like BB6 or 7 to make nominations in BBUK worthwhile