[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well joey, one of the biggest liars of the last couple of decades was a Labour leader. Lest we forget...

Hello Livia,
No disagreement there at all and I have said that many times myself.

Although I do quantify and qualify it by saying lies or not,(which I believe he did lie), no matter who was in power the then UK govt. would still have totally supported the Republican President Bush and gone to war in Iraq with the same result and the now ongoing chaos there is there again now too.

Yes however, the short answer is you are right and I agree absolutely.