[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

It's true though. People say all these things not realising that they are subconsciously sprouting out stuff they have been brainwashed into believing by the media since the minute they were born.

Not a lot of you are actually 'racist', you just have views stipulated based on race without even realising.

I'm tired now, so night!

I quite enjoyed BB tonight

..this really is not true at all..for myself I liked both Pauline and Toya on first impressions..Pauline I now think is very much a bully personality, which is something that has come out more and more in the week they have been in the house..that's completely and absolutely to do with her personality..although with Toya, I'm not really decided on what my opinion of her is yet, I do totally agree with the OP in that she does appear to 'talk at' people and not to them and only consider her own view which she tries to enforce on other people...I have no problem with people being 'outspoken' or what their opinion is but with Toya it's quite often when people don't agree..'you're not listening'...'you don't understand' type thing...and that thing where she doesn't seem to accept anything other than what she herself thinks and if someone doesn't agree then they're just stupid..?..

[Ammi]

..I always find it quite interesting, the difference between 'rude' and 'real/honest'..they're not the same thing at all...

[Vanessa]

Toya is alright, but she needs to stay away from Pauline.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Toya is alright, but she needs to stay away from Pauline.

,,hopefully Pauline will be staying away from all of the housemates after Friday.....

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

,,hopefully Pauline will be staying away from all of the housemates after Friday.....

I hope so. I've had enough of her. She's just nasty.

[camertone]

toya is so up in pauline's arse, she has been pauline's little soldier, her hatred towards jale, marlon, and christian are unfounded. but there's still hope for her, once pauline is evicted she may find her true place.

[ruiphillips]

Yes tbh

She is a complete bore who acts like a mini Pauline. Can't believe I liked her before.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by ruiphillips

Yes tbh

She is a complete bore who acts like a mini Pauline. Can't believe I liked her before.

You're not getting it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

It's true though. People say all these things not realising that they are subconsciously sprouting out stuff they have been brainwashed into believing by the media since the minute they were born.

Not a lot of you are actually 'racist', you just have views stipulated based on race without even realising.

I'm tired now, so night!

I quite enjoyed BB tonight

So it has nothing to do with the two women in question actually being either of those things?

Ok then.

People loved Pauline for the first 3-4 days or so, so your "brainwashed racist" crap doesn't hold any water.

[InOne]

I think even Toya loses track of what she's rambling on about most of the time. She's boring and need to go.

[likklemiss44]

so agree with your comment

[smeagol]

when pauline goes there will still be 14 left. so time for a double eviction toya and mark please , or helen if we can revoke her pass

[likklemiss44]

Yes please, Toya has to be next to go...who is she? Simon Cowell or what? she's just going around judging people herself and saying you should say it to the person's face...lighten up girl...you must be pauline's younger sister....get some personality!

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

And well done, for naming all the stereotypes of black women in one post

1. It has nothing to do with race! If you read a written transcript of Toya talking 'at' Jale the other night without knowing her gender/racial type then it would still sound just as in 'your face'

2. YOU were the one to equate those qualities to being stereotypical of black women - no one else did!

I think most people here would agree that ANYONE is capable of being 'in your face' etc - white/black/male or female!

etc etc

[smudgie]

Pauline next, then either Toya or Mark in either order the next eviction. Double eviction would be perfect.

[Headie]

How do you all know that Toya won't get better when Pauline leaves? I'm sure she'll probably come to her senses and switch to the right side of the house once Pauline is out.

Don't wish for all the contributors to be evicted, or you'll be sat watching an absolute dire show.

[Daffodil]

Toya is just fine. I would rather see Steven disappear to be honest.

[chuff me dizzy]

Time to go Toya, getting too big for her boots,arrogant and rude ,no one would miss her

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Can you pack it in bringing race up in almost every post. It's tedious.

[flamingGalah!]

I wasn't aware that being 'In your Face' was a stereotypically black woman thing Does that make me racist??

But yes Toya is just awful, an obnoxious, opinionated bitch...

[Adamw92]

No thanks. Now Mark out after Pauline would be perfect.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I wasn't aware that being 'In your Face' was a stereotypically black woman thing Does that make me racist??

But yes Toya is just awful, an obnoxious, opinionated bitch...

I wasn't either..

It's not like I said.. 'omg I hate Toya.. she's got a ghetto booty and is amazing at basketball'

[Lola844]

Originally Posted by lily.

um... ok...

Anyway, Toya comes across as the kind of person who wants to shout her opinion at you and not listen to yours unless it is the same..

She also pulled that 'you're not listening' thing when basically she meant 'you're not agreeing with me'.

My dislike of Toya has nothing to do with Pauline.

I also noted early on that she likes to sit by herself and talk to the cameras. I hate that.

You mean like Jale, with her. Please don't crying...please don't cry while she looked right into the camera. Give me a break. You dislike Toya because she's not sucking up to Jale's big ass. People who tend to identify with "the underdogs" will always have a problem with strong personalities.

[lily.]

The difference being... Jale is talking to herself/the cameras because she's been isolated from the group by an old woman who ought to effing know better. Maybe if she had a voice and a chance to speak to some of the other HMs she wouldn't do it. Toya talks to the cameras because she likes the sound of her own voice imo.