[beardedbloke]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

And with Helen and Pauline I've said that they've been rude to Jale, but bullying is what Christopher suffered, he tried to get himself out of it and for now it looks like he has, Jale from her first proper night in the house wanted to be a victim by making out that no one wanted to speak to her, well of course they're not going to if your not making an effort silly woman.

You say Christopher has 'got himself out of it' - but at what price? Pauline totally broke the poor bloke and made him her 'pet'. Jale on the other hand seems of stronger character and has not succumbed to Pauline's psychological bullying - Jale has refused to break down and become her lapdog. This makes Pauline view her as an 'enemy'. Haven't you noticed that Pauline doesn't want equality with the others? She wants adulation and obedience and god help anyone who refuses to give it to her.

How you can say that you don't see any bullying in that house is beyond me.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, victims of bullying can "get themselves out of it". It's as simple as that.

I'm saying he tried which is more than Jale who just isn't trying at all.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I'm saying he tried which is more than Jale who just isn't trying at all.

What is "trying" in your eyes?

What do you want her to do? Lick Helen's feet and grovel to be liked?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by beardedbloke

You say Christopher has 'got himself out of it' - but at what price? Pauline totally broke the poor bloke and made him her 'pet'. Jale on the other hand seems of stronger character and has not succumbed to Pauline's psychological bullying - Jale has refused to break down and become her lapdog. This makes Pauline view her as an 'enemy'. Haven't you noticed that Pauline doesn't want equality with the others? She wants adulation and obedience and god help anyone who refuses to give it to her.

How you can say that you don't see any bullying in that house is beyond me.

Pauline is a horrible person I agree with you on that, but bullying imo is someone trying to get in the social dynamics of the house and half the Housemates at least not giving a **** about their efforts, would you say that Jale has tried to get into the social dynamics of the house at all and answer honestly here? If anything she's trying to make herself more unpopular in the house.

[beardedbloke]

Originally Posted by mary poppins

.pauline should just sit on the couch and not utter a word until shes voted out because its painful to listen to the sh*** that comes out of her mouth!

Oh my. I just had the weirdest image come into my mind. Norman Bates as his mother sitting on the chair thinking 'I'll just sit here and be quiet, then they'll see how harmless I am. I wouldn't even hurt a fly'..... gave me the shivers it did

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What is "trying" in your eyes?

What do you want her to do? Lick Helen's feet and grovel to be liked?

How about having some fun in the house, speak to people, and most importantly don't set people up into arguments just to try and make them look bad in front of the public and make yourself look sympathetic to the public.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

How about having some fun in the house, speak to people, and most importantly don't set people up into arguments just to try and make them look bad in front of the public and make yourself look sympathetic to the public.

This!

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This!

I've got someone on my side.

I knew I could count on you and a few others Vanessa.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I've got someone on my side.

I knew I could count on you and a few others Vanessa.

I don't dislike Jale, but she just isn't entertaining for me. Helen reminds me a lot of Heidi.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Lola844

It's called people being idiots not bullying the public is the biggest bully. If you go on twitter they have called ever single one of them vile things. When they get out they will be called even worst to their faces. So the public stop acting as if they themselves are not bullies. PLEASE.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't dislike Jale, but she just isn't entertaining for me. Helen reminds me a lot of Heidi.

Are you on about Heidi from Speidi? If so I loved her as well lol.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

youre on the wrong side of the fence idiot, its obvious to anyone with a brain that Toya is just as much a bully as the rest of them

YES I SAID BULLY!!!

Is this post serious? Can you not elaborate without insulting members?Bitching does not equal bullying...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Are you on about Heidi from Speidi? If so I loved her as well lol.

Yes. There are similarities. Both fearless and speak their minds.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't dislike Jale, but she just isn't entertaining for me. Helen reminds me a lot of Heidi.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes. There are similarities. Both fearless and speak their minds.

Agreed, two awesome Housemates.

Hopefully people will grow to appreciate Helen as a Housemate eventually.

All I know is that if you go into the BB house as a newcomer this series don't argue on Jale as you will become the new bully.

[Vanessa]

[Mystic Mock]

I've saved that picture, thanks for putting it up Vanessa.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

How about having some fun in the house, speak to people, and most importantly don't set people up into arguments just to try and make them look bad in front of the public and make yourself look sympathetic to the public.

So Helen and Pauline are being set up to have arguments?

Ok then.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I've saved that picture, thanks for putting it up Vanessa.

I like Helen, Steven and Toya. The only one i don't like is Pauline. Too overbearing.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I'm saying he tried which is more than Jale who just isn't trying at all.

Of course she's tried. Several times she's sat with Pauline to try and sort things out and Pauline flips and refuses to speak to her.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Of course she's tried. Several times she's sat with Pauline to try and sort things out and Pauline flips and refuses to speak to her.

Pauline just can't accept other people point of view. If you don't agree with her she turns on you.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So Helen and Pauline are being set up to have arguments?

Ok then.

Well if she even tried to be civil to them they might leave her alone, if they didn't then yes they would be out of order, but so far it's all down to Jale not even wanting to socialize with the house from day 1 that she was in the house.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Well if she even tried to be civil to them they might leave her alone, if they didn't then yes they would be out of order, but so far it's all down to Jale not even wanting to socialize with the house from day 1 that she was in the house.

So Jale is asking for their jibes, rudeness and bitchiness because she isn't being civil?

Examples?

It just seems your favourite is looking bad so you automatically think the other person is doing it on purpose.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I like Helen, Steven and Toya. The only one i don't like is Pauline. Too overbearing.

I like Helen and Steven there, I've got to admit that Toya's too horrible and annoying even for me.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So Jale is asking for their jibes, rudeness and bitchiness because she isn't being civil?

Examples?

It just seems your favourite is looking bad so you automatically think the other person is doing it on purpose.

Read the post again and if you don't think that's an example then you really have got rose tinted glasses on.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes. There are similarities. Both fearless and speak their minds.

Helen is not fearless....she is actually spineless. She picks on the weakest, isolated housemates. She would not go up against Pauline. She also thinks ses invincible with her pass to the final. I know plenty of girls like Helen (and i know people who know Helen who have comfirmed this) they can talk the talk but when it comes to walking the walk...they walk away.