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Josy · 21-06-2014, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal

Where did I judge you? I made an assumption that you are from a relatively privileged background. If I was judging you I would have made some derogatory comment.

Not really, you can make a judgement without being derogatory.

Anyway to keep on topic I still think Ash should steer well clear, that opinion is based solely on Helen's behaviour and actions inside the house (I have said this all along so not sure why I'm all of a sudden being accused of slut shaming) she is not a nice person and would bring him down along with her IMO.

Kizzy · 21-06-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Again, this thread isn't specifically about Helen and her past it's about Ash and his reaction to it. You seem to be the only one bringing this 'slut shaming' thing up.

I haven't seen you post how you think he'll react...

Josy · 21-06-2014, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

I haven't seen you post how you think he'll react...

My very first post in this thread was about Ash and what I think he should do.

Edit - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...3&postcount=27

Verbal · 21-06-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Not really, you can make a judgement without being derogatory.

Anyway to keep on topic I still think Ash should steer well clear, that opinion is based solely on Helen's behaviour and actions inside the house (I have said this all along so not sure why I'm all of a sudden being accused of slut shaming) she is not a nice person and would bring him down along with her IMO.

Please point out to me where I judged you. I voiced no opinion, I just stated what I believed to have been fact based on what you said. You were welcome to come back at me and say you aren't.

You stated that 500 quid is hardly a fortune, and I said to some it would be. End of discussion.

Josy · 21-06-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal

Please point out to me where I judged you. I voiced no opinion, I just stated what I believed to have been fact based on what you said. You were welcome to come back at me and say you aren't.

You stated that 500 quid is hardly a fortune, and I said to some it would be. End of discussion.

I would rather the thread stayed on topic rather than be derailed with personal comments.

Kizzy · 21-06-2014, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

My very first post in this thread was about Ash and what I think he should do.

Edit - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...3&postcount=27

Yes what you think he should do, not what ash will actually do... that's the question isn't it?

Scream · 21-06-2014, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal

Being judgmental about someone makes you less of a person whether you are a man or a woman. Holding someones past against them when they have genuinely made a change is small minded, quite frankly pathetic, and is the reason for a lot of the problems in today's world.

So if someone told you they was a serial killer but it's all in the past and they regret it now you'd still want to be with them?

It's all subjective.

Verbal · 21-06-2014, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

I would rather the thread stayed on topic rather than be derailed with personal comments.

it was you that derailed it! Now because your argument has been shot down its suddenly against the rules. Everything I have said is relevant to the topic that is being discussed.

Kizzy · 21-06-2014, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Scream

So if someone told you they was a serial killer but it's all in the past and they regret it now you'd still want to be with them?

It's all subjective.

Not even nearly comparable.

Josy · 21-06-2014, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes what you think he should do, not what ash will actually do... that's the question isn't it?

No one but Ash knows that though for now, we wont be able to post about that until we see more of the highlights so I posted as on topic as what was possible like most other people in the thread Kizzy.

Josy · 21-06-2014, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal

it was you that derailed it! Now because your argument has been shot down its suddenly against the rules. Everything I have said is relevant to the topic that is being discussed.

Oh come on Verbal I derailed? I replied on topic and also to your post about judging, you commented personally about my background, it's there for anyone to read back and see.

Verbal · 21-06-2014, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Scream

So if someone told you they was a serial killer but it's all in the past and they regret it now you'd still want to be with them?

It's all subjective.

We are talking about sex workers not serial killers. But to answer your question, given the very small chance that they would be free, or that I would be in a high security prison, no I would certainly not turn my back on them.

Northern Monkey · 21-06-2014, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal

I genuinely don't see why that is a bad thing, would you rather they burgled your house? Or would you rather they serviced some lonely old pervert in the comfort of their own home?

Now you're judging people who use prostitutes,Calling them perverts.It could be the only sex they get.

Verbal · 21-06-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Oh come on Verbal I derailed? I replied on topic and also to your post about judging, you commented personally about my background, it's there for anyone to read back and see.

You said 500 quid is not a fortune, which is clearly based on your personal experience in life. Which will be personal comment number 1. Made by you.

I simply pointed out to you that is not the case for a large selection of the population.

Don't try scoring points Josy. It was for this reason I didn't come on here for months.

Verbal · 21-06-2014, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Now you're judging people who use prostitutes,Calling them perverts.It could be the only sex they get.

I'm sorry you can't see how deliberate that was. I was stooping to the level that this topic has been taken too... deliberately.

Kizzy · 21-06-2014, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Oh come on Verbal I derailed? I replied on topic and also to your post about judging, you commented personally about my background, it's there for anyone to read back and see.

Yes and I agree with him, he didn't judge you.
You said £500 wasn't a lot of money, he said you must be from a privileged background that's all.
Like you say we'll have to see what ash makes of the situation, I think he'll be fine with it as he's got to know her better than us I guess.

Josy · 21-06-2014, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal

You said 500 quid is not a fortune, which is clearly based on your personal experience in life. Which will be personal comment number 1. Made by you.

I simply pointed out to you that is not the case for a large selection of the population.

Don't try scoring points Josy. It was for this reason I didn't come on here for months.

Theres no point scoring here Verbal I am posting my replies to comments in the thread, it's a discussion and I just posted that I would rather the thread kept to the topic instead of becoming personal, not sure why that would be such a big deal?

Josy · 21-06-2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes and I agree with him, he didn't judge you.
You said £500 wasn't a lot of money, he said you must be from a privileged background that's all.
Like you say we'll have to see what ash makes of the situation, I think he'll be fine with it as he's got to know her better than us I guess.

That's judging me..assuming I'm from a certain background because of a post on a forum.

Kizzy · 21-06-2014, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

That's judging me..assuming I'm from a certain background because of a post on a forum.

No it really isn't.... he didn't make assumptions on your character based on the fact you said £500 was't a lot of money, I think it should be left here you're getting fixated on inferences that aren't actually there now josy.

Josy · 21-06-2014, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

No it really isn't.... he didn't make assumptions on your character based on the fact you said £500 was't allot of money, I think it should be left here you're getting fixated on inferences that aren't actually there now josy.

No one is forcing you to stay in the thread Kizzy?

And I have asked more than once for the thread to be kept on topic.

Kizzy · 21-06-2014, 02:38 PM

Well I would quite like to discuss the topic the OP posted if that's ok?

I saw the edit

Josy · 21-06-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well I would quite like to discuss the topic the OP posted if that's ok?

Discuss it then instead of quoting my discussion with another member?

dyfed · 21-06-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Not really, you can make a judgement without being derogatory.

Anyway to keep on topic I still think Ash should steer well clear, that opinion is based solely on Helen's behaviour and actions inside the house (I have said this all along so not sure why I'm all of a sudden being accused of slut shaming) she is not a nice person and would bring him down along with her IMO.

Game set and match to Josie ,absolutely agree with you.

Josy · 21-06-2014, 02:40 PM

One of the first things I noticed last night was that Ash was nowhere near Helen during the eviction, I expected her to be sat beside him or vice versa, I wonder if that's him starting to keep his distance?