[erinp5]

Listened to the clip again and Helen said to Toya that Ash just asked 'Did you get the choice to pick Kimberly'? Toya then said that they all need to calm the ****down ,that's when it kicked off .
Toya's response kicked the argument off.

[joeysteele]

[QUOTE=Brother Leon;6965549]Ash's popularity is going to skyrocket. Not sure how you think this makes him in danger. Toya is the second most disliked in there and making her look stupid is going to be great for him.[/QUOTE

I agree, this could give a boost to his image with the viewers.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

If Winston had told everyone to 'calm the **** down'.

Everyone one would be "You tell them Winston, it's only a game show, gosh Winston speaks so much sense and his body is so amazing oh my gosh, like he is so sexy and sweet at the same time #lush".

There's nothing wrong with telling someone to calm down.

But screaming and shouting "calm down!!!!" at people who are calm is just stupid.

[Lola844]

Originally Posted by Josy

What is?

It's not worth explaining and getting attacked for the next 2 hours lol

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

There's nothing wrong with telling someone to calm down.

But screaming and shouting "calm down!!!!" at people who are calm is just stupid.

Again, no one would hold it against Winston, so why Toya?

[Pete.]

A certain former 'immature brat' is regarded as one of the greatest housemates of all time.

Your point

[Josy]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

If Winston had told everyone to 'calm the **** down'.

Everyone one would be "You tell them Winston, it's only a game show, gosh Winston speaks so much sense and his body is so amazing oh my gosh, like he is so sexy and sweet at the same time #lush".

No they wouldn't be clapping not if he was the only one shouting and screaming.

After watching the vid a fair few times now and listening closely it is seeming more like Ash never called Toya a prick until she started telling them all to calm the f down, we wont know for definite until the highlights though.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

Again, no one would hold it against Winston, so why Toya?

I just said why. Because Winston was calm and Toya was the one screaming at everyone who dared to speak.

[Jamie585]

Can Winston ever be taken seriously? He just laughs at everything! He's in his own little bubble

[Pete.]

People are judging based on 2 minutes when this argument has probably been going on for 2/3 hours

[Macie Lightfoot]

The thing about Toya is that everything she tells people applies to herself more. Telling Jale that she's not listening, yelling at Christopher for talking behind people's backs, shouting at people to calm down, etc. And like, it could be entertaining but she's so humorless and earnest about it and is usually directing it at housemates who are actually likable that it's more frustrating than anything. She's an irritant and nothing more.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jamie585

Can Winston ever be taken seriously? He just laughs at everything! He's in his own little bubble

He said the funniest comment of the clip though

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

A certain former 'immature brat' is regarded as one of the greatest housemates of all time.

Your point

What relevance is this to the discussion?

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Josy

No they wouldn't be clapping not if he was the only one shouting and screaming.

After watching the vid a fair few times now and listening closely it is seeming more like Ash never called Toya a prick until she started telling them all to calm the f down, we wont know for definite until the highlights though.

Ash calling Toya a prick came before the video as clever BB is making out Toya is not he wrong here

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

People are judging based on 2 minutes when this argument has probably been going on for 2/3 hours

So are you.

These clips are all we have to go on so that's what we're discussing. Reading through the thread everybody has acknowledged we need the highlights to put this 2 minutes into context.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Jamie585

Can Winston ever be taken seriously? He just laughs at everything! He's in his own little bubble

He's a dumb mess who doesn't have a clue what's going on

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

He's a dumb mess who doesn't have a clue what's going on

So you can judge Winston from the video but we can't with Toya?

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What relevance is this to the discussion?

You claimed that you disliked Toya based on her nature as an immature brat but history shows that it won't go against her

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Ash calling Toya a prick came before the video as clever BB is making out Toya is not he wrong here

I was sure it was when he walked away when she was telling them all to calm the f down?

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So you can judge Winston from the video but we can't with Toya?

Wow your last 3 posts have been as a response to mine

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So you can judge Winston from the video but we can't with Toya?

I judged Winston long before this evening

[wendywillow]

toyas voice needs to be more shrill

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

You claimed that you disliked Toya based on her nature as an immature brat but history shows that it won't go against her

No I didn't.

I was putting this supposed "abuse of Toya" you claimed into a wider context. Comprehension is your friend.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

I judged Winston long before this evening

So don't try to call out other people for doing the same with Toya.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Wow your last 3 posts have been as a response to mine

Yes, it's called a conversation. Stay on topic.