[Vicky.]

Ash had been a bit of a bore until last night IMO. But it is funny how those who whinged about him being a bore are now whinging because he's doing something

[smeagol]

start a toya is boring thread dare ya lol

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ash had been a bit of a bore until last night IMO. But it is funny how those who whinged about him being a bore are now whinging because he's doing something

That was my basic point about any housemate that gets labelled a bore then when they aren't in the background any more but more in the limelight they still get evicted..

[Headie]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Ash is a boring **** and being one of the (many) victims of #HurricaneToya doesn't change that. The night was all about Toya. Her veto decisions lit a match and she's just burning that house down to the ground on her way out. I know this is a forum that values ~talking points~ more than anything and by now you guys all know how much I disagree with that, but what talking points does Ash even provide? He called Toya a prick, she flipped out and screeched about how she revealed everyone's true colors as she intended to, she moved HERSELF to near tears with her impassioned DR speech about the responsibility of being the power housemate, she went mad with power. Just because Ash was on the receiving end on her most volatile night doesn't automatically make him entertaining or valuable. Not at all. And if you think he's necessary to keep around for Toya to have someone to lash out at... so far she's lashed out at Jale, Christopher, Matthew, Marlon, Winston, and Ash, and she's been smearing Kimberly's name left and right and probably would've lashed out at her last night if she wasn't so distracted by those three idiot boys last night. Ash could pretty much be a mannequin doll at Toya would still lash out at him, it doesn't take much to piss her off. He's useless.

Brilliant post (I know you meant those Toya things as a negative but I see them as a positive)

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ash had been a bit of a bore until last night IMO. But it is funny how those who whinged about him being a bore are now whinging because he's doing something

Originally Posted by Josy

That was my basic point about any housemate that gets labelled a bore then when they aren't in the background any more but more in the limelight they still get evicted..

See Jack's post about VTE.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by smeagol

start a toya is boring thread dare ya lol

That's just it though, it's not the same.

I dislike Toya but she hasn't been labelled a bore as far as I'm aware? so not sure why she would be used as an example when I was specifically meaning housemates that have always been labelled bores.

[Vicky.]

I know the bookies are wrong sometime,s but according to them Marlon is more likely to be evicted than Ash..so why are people targetting Ash to save Toya?

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Josy

That's just it though, it's not the same.

I dislike Toya but she hasn't been labelled a bore as far as I'm aware? so not sure why she would be used as an example when I was specifically meaning housemates that have always been labelled bores.

i wa just joking cause the way this thread has gone lol

to me a bore is someone who if they left we the viewers wouldn't care.
think no one would notice ash gone to be fair

[Josy]

Originally Posted by smeagol

i wa just joking cause the way this thread has gone lol

to me a bore is someone who if they left we the viewers wouldn't care.
think no one would notice ash gone to be fair

I would

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I know the bookies are wrong sometime,s but according to them Marlon is more likely to be evicted than Ash..so why are people targetting Ash to save Toya?

Twitter hate and forum polls mainly

[Loukas]

The only thing that stands out about Ash in my head is when he dressed up in drag. The rest of it has just been kinda dull, i liked the guy on launch night but he hasn't really done anything?

Ash was always part of the ‘good-looking, popular group’ at school and was even friends with the majority of his teachers.

quote from BBSpy

Get rid of the 'popular' guy now, while we have the chance

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Not only is he boring but he is a repulsive twat

[Vicky.]

I would like Ash to go though even though he is finally waking up. I think it would massively shock the house and I can't stand arrogance, and he does come off as extremely arrogant. He won't expect to go, especially after being one of the first saved last friday

[Daffodil]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Not only is he boring but he is a repulsive twat

Agreed 100%

[Macie Lightfoot]

Does anyone even remember anything Ash did last night? Like yeah he fought with Toya but the content of what he had to say was clearly so forgettable so who cares

[Me. I Am Salman]

i can't think of anything noteworthy he's done apart from the argument last night (although even then he didn't do much) but I see more potential in him compared to winston and marlon who are excruciatingly boring. want marlon out more though because he's less likeable compared to winston and makes me cringe A LOT.

[Loukas]

Ash openly admits to being lazy

& He has been lazy in the house but yet he gets away with it

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Yes, Tamara was such a raving bitch...

Your point being?

We're talking about these "big characters" getting evicted after "doing something" are we not? Not a reason for every eviction the show's ever had. If we're talking about that, then each and every one has to be evicted at some point. Tamara wasn't a "big character".

[minty3]

Originally Posted by Josy

I like Ash and don't think of him as boring but...

Lots of people from the start have labelled him as one of the 'bores' yet he does something that dominates the highlights and they want him evicted?

I don't get it, so if your boring in there you are hated for it and if you are involved on one of the main rows of the show so far people campaign to get you evicted..

Opinions?

Spot on this is its the same with marlon I dont find him boring in the slightest I find ashleigh and winston the most boring tbh

[eezamana]

Originally Posted by Josy

Hayden for a start stop trying to make the thread about me rather than the topic of the OP.

Secondly I know I say people have different views of what's entertaining because that's what I believe? hence the reason I said at the start I don't find Ash boring? I like him?

My question was why are some hated for being 'boring' then evicted for being 'not boring'..

And the threads not about Toya but she has never been labelled 'boring' as far as I know? so the bit you added in about her is pointless..

BIB But Josy, you are the OP..........no? Just mentioning that because it means you'd be talking about yourself in the third person. Ashley is beautiful but bleurghhhh. he seems to think with his wee heid.

[joeysteele]

He is boring overall, does and says little really, however although he is just there I cannot help but like him and when he was one in the chaos with Toya last night,he at least did something positive,for me he did anyway.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by eezamana

BIB But Josy, you are the OP..........no? Just mentioning that because it means you'd be talking about yourself in the third person. Ashley is beautiful but bleurghhhh. he seems to think with his wee heid.

I was meaning original post not original poster

[Headie]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Does anyone even remember anything Ash did last night? Like yeah he fought with Toya but the content of what he had to say was clearly so forgettable so who cares

Break the rules regarding nominations and get away with it (saying he knows who he's putting up next week, implying Toya to the rest of the group) = NOT ENTERTAINMENT

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Break the rules regarding nominations and get away with it (saying he knows who he's putting up next week, implying Toya to the rest of the group) = NOT ENTERTAINMENT

Well he done/said a lot more than that but whatever...

And he may have been warned by BB? they don't show all of the warnings..we weren't shown Paulines or if he isn't evicted which I think is very doubtful..they may wait until they are nominating again and ban his noms since they know that annoys him?

[Tom4784]

He's really done nothing except lodging his tongue firmly in Helen's arse. He has a boring (and ugly) personality and he's only there because he's sort of decent to look at.