[reece(:]

where are the lies though?

[Dash Darington]

To hear some of you tell it, a good upbringing is worthless because it has no bearing on how a person will behave later in life.

It's hilarious how ignorant some of you are in your pretentions of being enlightened.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I agree,my God the hypocrisy on here,how many times did Toya call him a twat? and other things.

And having a go at Marlon because of the job he does.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

You've said this twice now. Care to elaborate? I'd love to know what tells you for a fact that his actions are mainly down to his upbringing as opposed to other factors (like, that just being his personality, for example).

It's fairly obvious just watching how he acts.

His misogynistic streak is a big tell, misogyny can often be linked to mother issues, it's not the only cause but it's a probable one. Secondly, the immaturity, an immature adult is a surefire sign that something was lacking during their upbringing. He acts like a child because he doesn't know how to act like an adult. Distant or overprotective parents, both as damaging as each other.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

To hear some of you tell it, a good upbringing is worthless because it has no bearing on how a person will behave later in life.

It's hilarious how ignorant some of you are in your pretentions of being enlightened.

Nobody said that.

The point is that the person's upbringing doesn't always decide how they will turn out. It's not as simple as "person shows disrespect = bad upbringing". Sure, many times the upbringing does effect this stuff, but not all the time. That's what people are saying.

Nobody said that renders a good upbringing worthless.

As for "ignorant", slamming someone's parents while knowing nothing of the facts regarding their upbringing isn't ignorant then?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

To hear some of you tell it, a good upbringing is worthless because it has no bearing on how a person will behave later in life.

It's hilarious how ignorant some of you are in your pretentions of being enlightened.

Well if Marlon is classed as being 'dragged' up the same must go for Toya,who has belittled,shouted,and humiliated people,so her parents didn't do a great job on her either

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

And having a go at Marlon because of the job he does.

Yeah, how dare he not go away to law school. How dare he have a perfectly acceptable, regular job.

He should go to Nigeria and own his own youtube channel. Only then will he find true happiness.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

And having a go at Marlon because of the job he does.

Yes,she was revelling in humiliating him,hope the gobby bint goes on Friday

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Josy

That's a hell of an assumption, blaming someone's parents for the way they act.

This is a debate that has gone on long in Psychology. So it's nothing new, many people believe that people's behaviour has a massive correlation with how they were raised.


I'm not condoning what Toya said, but I genuinely believe that Toya said this in regards to him being so incapable to be brought up correctly because of issues within himself, his parents had to drag him up.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes,she was revelling in humiliating him,hope the gobby bint goes on Friday

Me too. And i hope Helen bows up on her.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

And i hope Helen blows up on her.

You kinky mare.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You kinky mare.

Not in that way. I mean, she let Toya intimidate her.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You kinky mare.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

To hear some of you tell it, a good upbringing is worthless because it has no bearing on how a person will behave later in life.

It's hilarious how ignorant some of you are in your pretentions of being enlightened.

Yeah, thats clearly been the majority view in here...

Good god. Noone has said that. Simply that upbringing isnt the be all and end all of every adults personality

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Apart from calling him pathetic, stupid, boring, fat, beastly

She's not lying.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

She's not lying.

Neither was he when he called her a c ***

#truth

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Josy

Was there any need at all for Toya to completely disrespect Marlon's parents and family like that?

She has no idea at all what his background is ffs.

That's who she is and so now we all know,,we should get back to the phones and vote her out!

[Lola844]

Yes Marlon is an idiot. So go ahead Toya tell him.

[Novo]

She sealed her fate completely with her comments tonight

[Colbert-Bump]

Toya been brilliant on the show in the last few episodes but her treatment of Marlon since Day 1 has been awful. He's probably a decent guy under all the bulls**t but the way she talks about him is doing her no favors on eviction week.

[Marsh.]

Every time I see this thread I expect to see Marlon dressed in drag.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

It's funny when most parents would be ashamed if how she is acting herself

If I acted how Toya is acting my parents would be abit off put by my behaviour, but if I was to sit on tv and call a woman the C word and a bitch every 4 seconds they wold be repulsed.

[armand.kay]

Toya was talking about how she had just dragged Marlon to the pits not about His parents.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I agree,my God the hypocrisy on here,how many times did Toya call him a twat? and other things.

..tbf though, we're all guilty of that to a degree or most of us..(I think I've only ever seen a few people posting who I would personally say are totally 'fair' with their views..) and look at things completely objectively regardless of their favourites...and not just in this BB either...probably also in real life because we 'judge' each situation separately and see differences in them etc...(actually I've lost my train of thought ....)..