[sampvt]

You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

If Ashleigh was scared of Helen she would have got up and ran to the bedroom and cried.

She didn't. She sat where she was. It was Helen who walked off.

Not the first time Helen has done that.

She walked off on Jale, despite the fact that Jale barely said a word. She walked off on Daneille. She walked off on Matthew, then followed him.

I think she needs to regroup if someone responds, even slightly.

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

As I said, Ashleigh was more shell shocked how BB had shown the clips. No way she Ashleigh scared of Helen.

BB should never show the DR clips.

The DR is supposed to be a confident for the the HMs. Why would, could, a person open up and let BB know how they are really feeling if there is no trust.

If BB ask Ashleigh into the DR and ask how she's feeling about Friday, I hope she tells them to bog off. Because if they actually cared, the DR clip would never have been played.

HM's should learn from this. Talking to BB is only feeding them ammunition. The DR is supposed to be a safe place. It should be about the viewers gaining insight.

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Helen was a total embarrassment. I'm very surprised people see it any other way.

Helen has been an embarrassment from day 2. But people will always hate the pretty blonde more

[smeagol]

That low life scum helen has really got a jealousy problem with ashleigh being 18. its the most craziest thing ever. never seen someone so obsessed with age. she acts like shes 70

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by sampvt

You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

This

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by sampvt

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

nothing honest about her. bullying people is not being honest or real or whatever claptrap people say.

[jackc1806]

Hate when they edit things to create a different perspective

[Northern Monkey]

I blame Jale.Get her out now!

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Verbal

yea ok

She's been exposed as someone who will gladly screw over anyone that stands in her path.

So she deserves to be scrutinized for playing a game on a gameshow?

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

You have to look at it like this, either BB wants her to become the victim in the publics mind (who majority hate Helen) to help her this week.

OR

They could of shown the entire thing, given the public a chance to build respect for Ashleigh and the support of all the Helen haters.

I think BB wants her gone personally, giving Marlon the chance to save himself screwed her over completely, as she is now the main target, and editing tonights episode in the way they did has not given her the support she may need. I hope she doesn't go, because she's just perfect tbh, but she needs a bigger miracle than Ash got.

I think you are wrong about producers, they knew that Ashleigh would press the button so they tried to save her, but my hero Marlon got there first

Marlon: Searched for the hero inside himself........and found it!!

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by smeagol

nothing honest about her. bullying people is not being honest or real or whatever claptrap people say.

how is it bullying, when there is one person, having a go at another??

Jale said f..k all

Kim said f..k all

In fact mark & winston stood up for the little bitch even though she was having a row with Just Helen.............double standards much

If the little girl cant take it, she should not have entered a houseful off grown ups....hopefully she can go home to her Mammy on Friday

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by kefln

Not the first time Helen has done that.

She walked off on Jale, despite the fact that Jale barely said a word. She walked off on Daneille. She walked off on Matthew, then followed him.

I think she needs to regroup if someone responds, even slightly.


BB should never show the DR clips.

The DR is supposed to be a confident for the the HMs. Why would, could, a person open up and let BB know how they are really feeling if there is no trust.

If BB ask Ashleigh into the DR and ask how she's feeling about Friday, I hope she tells them to bog off. Because if they actually cared, the DR clip would never have been played.

HM's should learn from this. Talking to BB is only feeding them ammunition. The DR is supposed to be a safe place. It should be about the viewers gaining insight.


Helen has been an embarrassment from day 2. But people will always hate the pretty blonde more

and yet if Ashleigh & Danielle/Chris had got to see DR chats, you would have loved it lol

#doublestandards

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Jake.

So she deserves to be scrutinized for playing a game on a gameshow?

Erm...yea

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

I think you are wrong about producers, they knew that Ashleigh would press the button so they tried to save her, but my hero Marlon got there first

Marlon: Searched for the hero inside himself........and found it!!

Have to love how people "blame" Ashleigh for things she didn't do.

When your argument is weak, make things up

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

how is it bullying, when there is one person, having a go at another??

Jale said f..k all

Kim said f..k all

In fact mark & winston stood up for the little bitch even though she was having a row with Just Helen.............double standards much

If the little girl cant take it, she should not have entered a houseful off grown ups....hopefully she can go home to her Mammy on Friday

Can you please pick out the point where Ashleigh couldn't take it.

Or should it be pointed out that she handled the situation like an adult? Unlike Helen who could only resort to mocking accents.

Because when your argument is weak - make stuff up - like calling the more mature one "little girl".

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sampvt

You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by ImBatman

Im more inclined to go with what Judi James says rather then some non trained person on here.

Judi James saw and examined a different edit so she hasn't actually given an expert opinion on this footage.

Thanks.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

No the point of the thread is to show that Ashleigh did actually answer Helen back yet on BOTS their expert pshycologist gave a body language diagnosis of the situation which was wrongly edited and made out to look like a totally different situation.

So the point of this thread is to show that he producers cut that whole argument to give an incorrect portrayal on what actually happened as people were discussing about Ashleigh just sitting there and doing nothing.

Forum members were debating over something that was untrue so basically BB wasted everyones time on here.

Ashleigh said to Helen "No shut up, im not talking to you you never let people talk your a ****ing embaresment" is that retorical?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

how is it bullying, when there is one person, having a go at another??

Jale said f..k all

Kim said f..k all

In fact mark & winston stood up for the little bitch even though she was having a row with Just Helen.............double standards much

If the little girl cant take it, she should not have entered a houseful off grown ups....hopefully she can go home to her Mammy on Friday

At one point all 3 were saying something to her hence Mark and Winston saying they had to step in because it was 3 against 1.

Seriously I ****ing hate the fact we have no live feed because when we see what actually happens it makes me question the whole show.

Who knows Helen could be a ray of sunshine and Jale could be the house beauty lol

[Alf]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Im guessing you didn't take the 2 minutes to watch that 2 minute clip at the top of the page where Ashleigh tells Helen to **** of and calls her an embaresment then.

No I didn't, that was very ignorant of me.

I shall watch it now.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by wannashag

No I didn't, that was very ignorant of me.

I shall watch it now.

Well not really its just you wasting your time if you don't take time to watch it then you cant really give an opinion.

Its like reviewing a song without ever hearing it.

[Alf]

Ok I watched it

So why would people want to evict a girl that stands up to the house bully?

If that was Jale she would have just laid down to Helen like she did at the start and become one of Helen's merry followers like she is now.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Well not really its just you wasting your time if you don't take time to watch it then you cant really give an opinion.

Its like reviewing a song without ever hearing it.

I wasn't being sarcastic, I genuinely mean't that it was ignorant of me to not watch the video before commenting.

I just commented on what I saw in the highlights show.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by wannashag

I wasn't being sarcastic, I genuinely mean't that it was ignorant of me to not watch the video before commenting.

I just commented on what I saw in the highlights show.

Oh lol sorry

I was so shocked when watching the highlights last night I was surprised no one else pointed it out.

[Jack_]

Wasn't gonna watch this cause I couldn't be bothered but I did anyway and wtf...I was pretty disappointed in Ashleigh's for her lack of response last night, this paints a totally different picture than the edit did. It's things like these that prove why we need live feed

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Wasn't gonna watch this cause I couldn't be bothered but I did anyway and wtf...I was pretty disappointed in Ashleigh's for her lack of response last night, this paints a totally different picture than the edit did. It's things like these that prove why we need live feed

Yeah I didn't think people would even bother to watch it because they do just believe the edit.

Thankfully 153 people took a few minutes to realise how deceiving the editing is this year.