[the truth]

I have no issue at all with any religions or religious beliefs. unless of course its illegal.
my issue here is specifically the right of israel to steal land from the palestinians 2000 years after leaving (allegedly leaving) the whole thing is preposterous and clearly a disaster waiting to happen. now that this disaster is 60 years old....then of course a 2 state solution is the only way forward. sadly with the idiots in charge , we can have no compromise only eye for an eye nonsense that destroys lives. this is the problem with hardcore no compromise beliefs. One MUST find that compromise. This is where these muslims and Jews religious could heed the words of jesus in finally finding some peaceful way forward. Instead of the petty land grabs, assassinations, endless acts of revenge. BOTH sides need to recognise the 2 state solution. Palestine should be recognised as a nation by the UN and everyone else. The Israeli land grabs should be treated as abhorrent and illegal by the UN and all nations. Only then really can we even hope to see a way forward.

[the truth]

I feel it vitally important to seperate Christianity from Judaism and islam. Christianity is the one I believe in. Forgiveness, repentance, redemption etc Christianity is far far far far far far far far far far far more enlightened and a far better more peaceful way forward imho

[Me. I Am Salman]

The BBC bias is infuriating, idk how these people sleep at night. Absolutely disgusting

[arista]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

The BBC bias is infuriating, idk how these people sleep at night. Absolutely disgusting

Yes
many have said this.

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/story/1299012/ha...ll-be-targeted



Not one Israeli side has died

But over a 100 and children have died
on the Hamas side

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

Not one Israeli side has died

But over a 100 and children have died
on the Hamas side

While not wishing in any way to justify the Palestinian deaths and casualties, I would point out that this latest wave of violence was sparked by the murder of three Israeli teenagers.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

While not wishing in any way to justify the Palestinian deaths and casualties, I would point out that this latest wave of violence was sparked by the murder of three Israeli teenagers.

no it was not. that in turn was sparked by a previous mass murdering of palestinians and so the cycle of utter carnage goes on. its an absolute disgrace. its time we supplies weapons to the palestinians to defend themselves

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

While not wishing in any way to justify the Palestinian deaths and casualties, I would point out that this latest wave of violence was sparked by the murder of three Israeli teenagers.

Yes that was so wrong - Whoever did it.

But when I said loads on the Hamas died (133 at present)
and no Israeli died
I meant after that tragic killing of the 3 teenagers



Of Course what is wrong on the Hamas side
is many Rockets are Fired from top of flats
with public below them.
So when the Israeli's track them and fire back
loads of Public Die

[the truth]

Originally Posted by arista

http://news.sky.com/story/1299012/ha...ll-be-targeted



Not one Israeli side has died

But over a 100 and children have died
on the Hamas side

and WE help in the massive supply of israeli weapons

[Iceman]

I was briefly part of a protest today here in dublin....

Saddens me how little media coverage this has gotten in the UK media.

[Kizzy]

I thought there was a jerusalem?
Flevit super illam

[arista]

Israeli Troops Launch First Ground Raid On Gaza

[The armed branch of Hamas confirmed
that Israeli troops had exchanged gunfire with Palestinian fighters.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1299931/is...d-raid-on-gaza

[Northern Monkey]

As far as religion is concerned the Hebrews were in that region(Canaan)over a thousand years before Christianity came about and nearly two thousand years before Islam.However i don't think this conflict is just about religion,It's about territory aswell which complicates things.There were people there before the Jews came from Egypt.I don't think this conflict will be resolved in our life time or for generations after that.Who knows if it ever will,Even after modern religion is looked back on as the greek,Egyptian and Roman religions are now.

[the truth]

yet another reason why scotland may go it alone, they actually read up on these matters are better eductaed than the rest of us and more fair minded and compassionate than the warmongering rich westminster elite

[Livia]

Nothing's that black and white.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Nothing's that black and white.

139 dead v no dead
sounds black and white and red all over

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

139 dead v no dead
sounds black and white and red all over

I was, of course, referring to your comment about Scotland. No country is all good or all bad.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I was, of course, referring to your comment about Scotland. No country is all good or all bad.

Except America.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

I was, of course, referring to your comment about Scotland. No country is all good or all bad.

israel is now mostly bad....scotland has a far more balanced view of world events than England, who are controlled by the elite rich and monarchy hell bent on power

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

israel is now mostly bad....scotland has a far more balanced view of world events than England, who are controlled by the elite rich and monarchy hell bent on power

Whatever... it's not worth pursuing this discussion with you, frankly.

[arista]

I give credit to Israel who halted a attack
as they could see children all around the zone.


It will get worse
Its harder for Hamas as Egypt
is no longer able to help
as they are under Army Control

[Me. I Am Salman]

speechless tbh..

[the truth]

Incredible to think in the 70 years since the disastrous world war 2 where germany was taken over by a psychotic austrian......since those dark days, germany has become pretty much the greatest country in the world, whereas israel has become the worst country in the world. food for thought.

[arista]

Hamas need to Fire 20 rockets at the same time
to confuse the defense system
and hit people.

As so far no missile has killed anyone

[Crimson Dynamo]

30 odd children dead so far 172 dead total in last 7 days

No deaths in Israel.

As terrorists they are not exactly proficient