[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Lstan

i dont know what you mean by gansta, and i dunno why you would use that term. and i wasnt talking about bitching either, calm down. i dont think marlon bitches,especially in comparison to helen etc but i do think he looks down on people, like the way he talked about kimberly and women in general.

He wasn't looking down on Kimberly, he was looking up to her and admiring her beauty. He made jokes and after he found out she didn't like the comments and was offended. She took him to one side, had a mature conversation with him and problem sorted. I think they both handled it well. She was calm and mature, he took it on board and didn't start getting defensive did he? I don't understand why people would hold something like that against someone for so long. There is no "women in general", just as there is no "men in general". Each man and each woman on the planet is an individual. The Marlon and Ash conversation they were talking about sluts. Women who consider themselves sluts and happy for the label. Studs and sluts go together. They were not talking about women who don't refer to themselves as sluts. If a group of women said "why didn't they send in a couple of studs" would that offend many men or women?