[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Livia

He's entitled to do that. BB asks him questions, he answers. I doubt he imagines that everything is says is broadcast. Others housemates do the same. You can't possibly know he feels morally superior unless you have access to this thoughts, that's just your own perception based on the fact that you don't like him.

Chris is a quiet guy who would not be heard by the others even if he did choose to speak up.
Seeing him in the Diary room is the best we can get of him.
I enjoy listening to his observations.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Livia

He's entitled to do that. BB asks him questions, he answers.

They sound pre-prepared to me. And he can answer those questions however he likes. He doesn't have to put on the show he does.

I doubt he imagines that everything is says is broadcast. Other housemates do the same. You can't possibly know he feels morally superior unless you have access to this thoughts, that's just your own perception based on the fact that you don't like him.

He slagged them all off for being fake whilst in the diary room before going back and getting along with all of them himself.

[Kazanne]

I think we are all mature enough to make our minds up on who we like, I like him,be happy for him to win

[Jake.]

You know that the diary room is there for people to unload, right? Or would you rather they all dicuss what they had for breakfast instead?

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Jake.

You know that the diary room is there for people to unload, right?

Yes, it's there to put on a show for the viewers. It's there to manipulate people's thoughts and get them on side. It's there to assassinate people's character to the public without them having a chance to defend themself. Something Chris does very well.

One question is why are people who do the more natural thing of going off with a friend and having a bitch regarded as nasty and two faced, whilst someone who choose to go to the diary room and bitch about others to the viewing audience regarded so highly. There's a phoniness about it all.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

They sound pre-prepared to me. And he can answer those questions however he likes. He doesn't have to put on the show he does.




He slagged them all off for being fake whilst in the diary room before going back and getting along with all of them himself.

In response to your first comment, sounding pre-prepared to you means nothing. Again, it's just your perception because you don't like him, coupled with the fact he's intelligent and eloquent, which would make him stand out in there.

Secondly, they are mostly fake. Would you have preferred him to lie? And then he went back into the house and got on with it, tactfully, without creating yet another boring, shallow bitchfest. I would see where you were coming from if every single other housemate had not, at one time or another, bitched about other people in the diary room and behind their backs. But they ALL do it.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Livia

Secondly, they are mostly fake. Would you have preferred him to lie? And then he went back into the house and got on with it, tactfully, without creating yet another boring, shallow bitchfest. I would see where you were coming from if every single other housemate had not, at one time or another, bitched about other people in the diary room and behind their backs. But they ALL do it.

He seems to do this a lot more than the others though and I think viewers should be wary of him. My suspicion of him really goes back to the speech he gave when up for the chop with the lads, in front of the girls. I thought there was something very strange about a man pouring his heart out like that in that situation.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Yes, it's there to put on a show for the viewers. It's there to manipulate people's thoughts and get them on side. It's there to assassinate people's character to the public without them having a chance to defend themself. Something Chris does very well.

One question is why are people who do the more natural thing of going off with a friend and having a bitch regarded as nasty and two faced, whilst someone who choose to go to the diary room and bitch about others to the viewing audience regarded so highly. There's a phoniness about it all.

So in other words, he's doing what the diary room requires him to do...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

He seems to do this a lot more than the others though and I think viewers should be wary of him. My suspicion of him really goes back to the speech he gave when up for the chop with the lads, in front of the girls. I thought there was something very strange about a man pouring his heart out like that in that situation.

Most viewers are intelligent enough to make up their minds. What you mean is, viewers should agree with you.

He's different from the other "lads" in that, he isn't a "lad". He may have been genuinely pouring his heart out, he may have been acting. In any case, it saved him. It's a game.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Jake.

So in other words, he's doing what the diary room requires him to do...

The diary room doesn't require anything of anyone. Hence no one being anywhere near as bad (or good depending on POV) as him.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Livia

Most viewers are intelligent enough to make up their minds. What you mean is, viewers should agree with you.

He's different from the other "lads" in that, he isn't a "lad". He may have been genuinely pouring his heart out, he may have been acting. In any case, it saved him. It's a game.

Ah okay. So any level of manipulation or insincerity is always to be defended with this line.

[Jamesy]

I like Chris. He does what I would do in that house pretty much, spill the truth tea in the diary room and keep relatively to myself in the house.

I hate it when people come out with the "I say it to their face", it's pretty much just them saying "I shout and blurt out like a chav". Why should Chris say what he says in the diary room to peoples' faces? They will just seclude him and be even more horrible than they already are. It's not bitchy, not insincere, not rude, it's just common sense and Chris is doing just that.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Ah okay. So any level of manipulation or insincerity is always to be defended with this line.

You think the rest of them are sincere? Are you kidding me? They are all playing a game and they're all desperate to win. Otherwise, what's the point of taking part? What about Winston's performance in the same task you mentioned? Your opinion of Chris is based solely on the fact that you don't like him, so it's blinding you to the faults of the others.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You think the rest of them are sincere? Are you kidding me? They are all playing a game and they're all desperate to win. Otherwise, what's the point of taking part? What about Winston's performance in the same task you mentioned? Your opinion of Chris is based solely on the fact that you don't like him, so it's blinding you to the faults of the others.

Exactly, we were promised ruthless characters yet people seem to cry at the very thought

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

I like Chris. He does what I would do in that house pretty much, spill the truth tea in the diary room and keep relatively to myself in the house.

I hate it when people come out with the "I say it to their face", it's pretty much just them saying "I shout and blurt out like a chav". Why should Chris say what he says in the diary room to peoples' faces? They will just seclude him and be even more horrible than they already are. It's not bitchy, not insincere, not rude, it's just common sense and Chris is doing just that.

Totally agree, Jamesy.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Livia

Your opinion of Chris is based solely on the fact that you don't like him, so it's blinding you to the faults of the others.

Well said Liv!

That's pretty much all this thread is and it's getting really stale now! He's done another one hating on Danielle.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

What was he spot on about? He was wrong about Danielle. It was quite right for her to be exposed for what she was.

Chris wasn't 'wrong' about Danielle, what he said was he judged her as the Danielle he knew in the house which is a great way of looking at things instead of being ate up with curiosity about the outside world and what if's when there is nothing any of them can do/find out about it whilst in the house anyway.

Of all the people to accuse of being insincere I would never think of Chris to be one of them.

Hmmm some could think you are trying for a character assassination on him because he is competition for other housemates.

Chris is old school BB IMO, a breath of fresh air between the fame hungry, nasty, miserable wannabes, that's why people like him.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

What he said about Danielle was BS... He essentially said "I don't care what the actual truth is. I am only interested in how Danielle presents herself to me"

It's like someone saying "I don't care if Nasty Nick made up that his wife died in a car accident, he's seem like a decent honest chap to me"

I don't remember Danielle making up a dead person

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Josy

Chris wasn't 'wrong' about Danielle, what he said was he judged her as the Danielle he knew in the house which is a great way of looking at things instead of being ate up with curiosity about the outside world and what if's when there is nothing any of them can do/find out about it whilst in the house anyway.

Of all the people to accuse of being insincere I would never think of Chris to be one of them.

Hmmm some could think you are trying for a character assassination on him because he is competition for other housemates.

Chris is old school BB IMO, a breath of fresh air between the fame hungry, nasty, miserable wannabes, that's why people like him.

Well said Josy

[anniemay]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

No , Chris is the only sane one in there , the voice of reason , a decent man with a brain and morals and so deserves to win.

Couldn't agree more, love little Chris, intelligent, gentle, kind, and very funny. Check out some of his videos on youtube e.g http://goo.gl/oM41MI

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Another thing I would add... Let's say someone came into the house in BB1 and exposed Nasty Nick for what he was, a total sham. Would Chris have defended Nasty Nick? Would he have spoken about the unfairness of it all?

Why do people think Danielle was above and beyond being exposed for what she was? She pretended to be something she wasn't to the very people she was close to. That's not a good person, and it's something that was worth them hearing.

Entirely different. Nick used emotional blackmail, lying about having a wife who died etc and then also breaking the rules of the game regarding discussing nominations.

Chris and Danielle never made any such sick lies on such an awful level and neither broke the rules of the BB game.

Two completely different scenarios.

[anniemay]

I love Chris. He makes some very shrewd observations in the Diary Room, which are often the most entertaining footage on BB. He is a funny Guy, have a look at some of his videos on youtube e.g. http://goo.gl/oM41MI

#bbchris @CHRISTOWINBBUK Go team Chris!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

He slagged them all off for being fake whilst in the diary room before going back and getting along with all of them himself.

You do realise why it is called the "DIARY" room, right? It is supposed to be the place they are asked about their fellow housemates and are completely honest.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You do realise why it is called the "DIARY" room, right? It is supposed to be the place they are asked about their fellow housemates and are completely honest.

He looks like he relishes laying into them to me. You don't have to do that.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

Chris wasn't 'wrong' about Danielle, what he said was he judged her as the Danielle he knew in the house which is a great way of looking at things instead of being ate up with curiosity about the outside world and what if's when there is nothing any of them can do/find out about it whilst in the house anyway.

And what he knew about Danielle was that she was on a show about web cam girls and that the new housemates had seen her do topless modeling shoots.

Seems to me he just wanted to put his fingers in his ears and pretend this has nothing to do with anything, when it is essential to understanding who the real Danielle was.

Of all the people to accuse of being insincere I would never think of Chris to be one of them.

I don't know why. His speech a couple of weeks ago when he poured his heart out to save himself from eviction was very strange in my opinion, and he does make some very cutting remarks about people in the diary room. He spoke about how false the party atmosphere was, but he's hardly an honest up front person himself.

Hmmm some could think you are trying for a character assassination on him because he is competition for other housemates.

All the housemates should be put under scrutiny. But heavy is the head that wears the crown.

Chris is old school BB IMO, a breath of fresh air between the fame hungry, nasty, miserable wannabes, that's why people like him.

He'd have fit in with Cameron on BB4 imo.