[the truth]

Originally Posted by Redway

You can't always reason with things like that, though. It's nothing something you'd be able to get your head around unless you've been in that position yourself. The fact that she had the resources doesn't mean that she could've chosen to stop being a junkie if she wanted to. No one chooses to be an addict. And if you think otherwise then clearly you need to do some research.

wrong. people who are drug takers, who have kids need to forsee the fact they are putting their kids in danger and act to ensure they can avoid that. as for this uber liberal claptrap about never treating junkies like criminals and only to embrace them all...what about the crimes people commit under the influence of drugs, the destruction of families, of communities, the destruction of the nhs which spends trillions on drink and drugs

sometimes tough love is whats needed.its the over liberal attitude thats seen drug use rise to amongst the highest per capita in the world in the uk. you need to take your own advice and research what damage this liberal attitude to drugs has done to the uk. what its contributed to our enormous drug use, drug related crime, drug pushing, violence, theft, broken homes, broken communities etc etc

while we are spending billions more on drugs, where does this funding come from? who else loses out on funding in order that we spend more on helping drug pushers and drug takers. the pot of money , resources and staff is limited. so someone has to lose out to finance your , lets help the junkies more campaign. is this 1 reason why so many people, often salt of the eart harmless hard working law abiding citizens , are left to rot in hospitals and in homes. they seem to get less sympathy and less attention and less spent on them per head. drug takers and drug pushers, get relative luxury. old vulnerable people are likely to be fed, clothed and quenched. they even get to share 1 tv set between a whole load of them. they get so very little for their lifetime of work and duty.

if we follow your overall mantra where does it lead beyond the disaster we now have? if adrug user beats an old woman and steals her money and accidentally kills her or leaves her in a coma. our sympathy is with the criminal? he couldnt help it could he? hes from a poor background, he has an addictive personality etc he doesnt belong in prison. meanwhile the forgotten old lady has been forgotten by the system....no doubt one reason the nhs is falling apart is that the staff are abused by those under the influence of drink and drugs.

i notice how you come on this thread with the bleeding heart liberal argument purported by russell brand....yet another thread which points out the mass corruption, systematic abuse in nhs hospitals, you make no contribution at all....I would suggest this shows your own priorities are utterly confused.

ive sat next to an old lady suffering a heart attack as the nurses ignored her all night only to deal with screaming drunken junkie kids, simply because they felt intimidated and the kids screamed louder. this is the end result of your uber liberal demands. utter ammoral carnage, the weak ignored and walked over left to die, the drug taking attention seeking junkies sucking up the funding and the services.